So about Summoner...

[Zerathor]

take a closer look who got personal first pal - else you are right its fun to stab back if you have zero ground to stand on. ^^

What ever you say green queen. ;^)

[Neela]

What ever you say green queen. ;^)

well your problem in a nutshell:

Do you think nerfing summoner would make BLM more valuable in UwU?

honestly i just want blm to get a buff to the point its a viable option (in ult). be that from a noticeable dps gain over smn, or letting them have some kind of unique group utility again.

Raise (or utility in general) isn't the biggest reason BLM is poor for progression; it's because of how intimately one needs to know the fight so they know where to stand to maximize their dps. A BLM who doesn't know where or how to stand will always do less dps than a SMN, and in a lot of cases even RDM.

you just don't get the point that complaining about smn won't solve blm endgame situation - no matter how hard u try or how personal u get. you can talk about flogs statistics and compare them to death for the next two weeks and it won't change anything - blm won't become a beloved prog cls in its design no matter how many pot buffs it will get - so just get over it.

[Zerathor]

snip.

It's more of using smn as a comparison point to assist on buffing blm to be more where it needs to be to be competitive. Not even really about nerfing smn.

-The mobility is a complete non issue.
-The dps is very close due to smn being burst based and they can synergize with most group buff timers by doing their standard cycle.
-Smn has raise

My issue is that for having something as powerful as a raise, they don't suffer much of any penalty for it. That doesn't inherently mean "nerf smn", it means give blm some kind of unique utility that can be objectively as good as raise, or a more noticeable damage edge so the price of having a raise in your arsenal isn't almost free.

The only objective edge you can argue for blm, is they probably lose the least dps if they die and get raised compared to most jobs. That's not a very good edge.