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    TelosNox's Avatar
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    Liandrin Saruni
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    Shiva
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    Summoner Lv 70
    RDM has way too low DPS. Looking at 75th percentile it needs at least + 200-300 dps to be ok.
    SMN has too high DPS and looking at 75th it needs about - 200 dps to be balanced.

    Raise should be removed completely.

    But you have to consider: Both classes rely on group composition for their support. Both need a physical group to provide best support. SMN could go with a magical group but then has to deal with garuda positioning.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TelosNox View Post
    RDM has way too low DPS. Looking at 75th percentile it needs at least + 200-300 dps to be ok.
    SMN has too high DPS and looking at 75th it needs about - 200 dps to be balanced.

    Raise should be removed completely.

    But you have to consider: Both classes rely on group composition for their support. Both need a physical group to provide best support. SMN could go with a magical group but then has to deal with garuda positioning.
    That's a unique take on it; SMN would have to be balanced to be a bit stronger than RDM in this hypothetical because of the inherent advantages physical buffs have against magical buffs. But make RDM the physical buffing mage and SMN the magical buffing mage...I can see this being a neat line to draw.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TelosNox View Post
    RDM has way too low DPS. Looking at 75th percentile it needs at least + 200-300 dps to be ok.
    SMN has too high DPS and looking at 75th it needs about - 200 dps to be balanced.

    Raise should be removed completely.

    But you have to consider: Both classes rely on group composition for their support. Both need a physical group to provide best support. SMN could go with a magical group but then has to deal with garuda positioning.
    But that not make casters competitive between physical damage users. BLM need 200 dps reach samurai level and rdm need like 500 dps if you are comparing 75%. That would fall into double physical or triple melee meta again. Monk already have by far fastest speed kills compared to casters.
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