Why are Statics so difficult sometimes?

[RiyahArp]

What kind of videogame? Team based videogames. Period. If you are serious in any kind of esports or PVP game, it is exactly the same.

The game is what causes it. If they liked Savage, why would they make excuses to skip it? You can't manage people into doing something they dislike. The way these team-based, high skill games are wind up being very unlikable for a lot of people. I saw it on overwatch...people try and do it, find they are miserable, and ditch competitive or the game entirely. I think it's fair to be annoyed at the games some, and I'd kind of point out battle royale has become popular as a counterreaction to them.

If that's how you took all the previous posts, then I'm not sure if you've read them at all.

They're saying that it's dependent on the player's goals. Is a player's goal is to clear savage content quickly as possible, and their friends have those same goals? Great! Do their friends have a more casual look on the game? Probably not wise to raid savage with them, unless they're okay with reaching their goal at a slower pace or not at all.

You know, if a game kind of forces that kind of separation, i don't think it's good. The fact that you have to weigh your friends compared to getting completion of four fights that have a shelf life of one year tops i don't think is good design. I think this is why old-school raid design was pretty low on the skill component and higher on the time one, so you weren't forced to weigh your goals as much.

It’s not so much people saying “Don’t raid with FC mates/friends/significant others”, as it’s people saying “In the event that you do, make sure that you are able to have a stern hand with them”, I think—so as that, if they start causing drama, you have the guts to put a stop to it rather than “let it go because they’re your FC mate/friend/significant other”. Many a times static leaders let their FC mate/friend/SO stomp all over them and dictate the static, and it causes friction in the static because of that.

I prefer to raid with friends myself as opposed to strangers. It makes the content more fun. But there have to be checks and balances in place so that friendships do not negatively impact the way the static runs.


As for the “Savage isn’t fun for most people”, we have already agreed to disagree on this, because I think what is fun is subjective. If we’re speaking with regards to the amount of the playerbase that does Savage, then yes, you could probably infer that Savage isn’t fun for most people. But I think for the majority of people that do run Savage enjoy the content. Otherwise, why would they do it?

Because the static is so important that you need to take a stern hand with your friend, possibly to the point of kicking them, otherwise clearing this fight will be impossible. The whole skill threshold for this and organizational threshhold is so high, comparable to certain types of raiding, that you have to manage your friends as if they are working with you. In other mmos, it exists, but it seems to be much harsher here, comparable to the aforementioned pvp games.

I think this kind of game transforms the relationship badly, and players for some reason kind of default to "it's the players fault" in the sense that the static is more important or the goal is. The op is surprised that people are the way they are, but I always wonder why no one ever looks at the game itself.

Oh as for fun, eh.I meant it in the population sense, which affects the OP who recruited from his FC. If someone gives an excuse not to do something, there really are just two options if it isnt legit. They don't like it, or they don't like you. My bet is on the former, because usually, people who organize are pretty nice.