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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    It's because people LOVE making up lies and excuses instead of just being honest.

    This tier alone I have had three people claim to be "hospitalized" or have "serious health issues" and cannot continue to raid as their reason for leaving a group.

    Three within a month. Totally separate players. Two different statics. Hospitalized/Serious Health issues and cannot raid anymore for many months. I mean it seems a bit too common in my opinion lol...

    If I smell bull I can usually find it too since there are some easy ways to see people are likely making up lies... coughfflogscough. It is very funny how people think you won't know they were making up lies or in general when people assume others are so naive or gullible, like if you don't care that people are going to find out you are lying might as well leave the group normally and not make bull excuses.

    It made me decide on a new phrase: "Raiding from hospital bed is new meta", because all these players continued to raid even after claiming they needed to be hospitalized for serious health issues...in one case literally the NEXT DAY after they said it and the others within a few days.

    I would still have at least some respect for someone for simply disparaging the group then leaving, at least they were honest and not lying and making up excuses. Liars go to zero respect for me pretty fast. I don't understand what is so hard about being an adult and simply saying "Sorry, the group just isn't working out for me." It seems so darn easy, but it seems 80% of the time people rather make up a lie.

    I am extremely jaded by now since I have raided every tier in this entire game so far, but I dealt with statics where people wouldn't even say when they would be late or cannot make it and leave everyone in the dark waiting blindly for up to 30+ mins wondering if they are going to show up and usually it would end up some crazy excuse or they didn't even care to explain at all.

    I understand this is a game, but the other human beings you are supposed to be playing with are NOT a game.

    We have lives too, we have responsibilities, we value our time, and making us wait around for you when you couldn't be bothered to let us know is rude. With smart phones and discord and text messages there just isn't many excuses that will fly for not at least taking 10 seconds to type "can't make it" so that you aren't leaving 7 people waiting for you and wasting their time.

    People will only trust you for so long if you keep making up crazy stories where every week it is something else and you are missing for the 3rd week in a row at least one of the scheduled raid days. "I'm at the emergency room, my car broke down/blew up, I was in a car accident, family member died, friend died, my pet died, my house is on fire, the police are SWATing my neighbour"....I've heard them all and it seems to me certain people really have the worst luck in the entire world where tragedies are befalling them every week.

    I think some people actually believe that the more serious the reason the more believable it is....but to me it is the opposite: the more serious the reason the more unbelievable it is ESPECIALLY if it seems like every time they are MIA with zero notice it is somehow always a serious incident.

    So my advice to OP is: don't continue to play with these types of people. They won't change and they will just keep coming back with excuses. It will drag you down and anyone else who actually cares about doing the static content together.

    They are the types that will be like "Oh, it's just a gaaammee, why are you taking it so serious LOL" when they are simply too self centered to realize that they are wasting the time of the other human beings in their groups and it has nothing to do with it being a game or not


    I made my own static recently and put my foot down about late/absent issues. Basically the rules are if you are going to be late by over 10 mins let us know ASAP, if you can't make it let us know ASAP, and if these two rules are followed then you are fine even if you are late or absent sometimes due to whatever. If it becomes a pattern of you being late or MIA with zero notice to the group then we might have to replace. Obviously if a serious issue occurs where you had no opportunity to alert us it is fine, the main thing is IF it becomes a constant pattern.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Because people are difficult.
    Basically this.

    In my experience they seem to rather want to jerk you around, be flaky, and see how much they can get away with instead of simply just leaving the group if they are not committed and they make things WAY more difficult than they need to be with their lies and excuses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Don't raid with friends or significant others.
    I don't agree with this.

    It is possible to have a significant other and/or friends who have the same goals and can play together well.

    My boyfriend and I have raided together on this game since 1.0 and for every tier since 2.0 launch. First coil we were tank/healer, and from second coil allll the way till now we are a healer duo. Him on SCH and me on WHM (then AST later).





    Disclaimer: I am not saying people do not sometimes have legitimate reasons, they do, but if you call in sick every week to your sports game meet? You're likely gonna get dropped for them to get a new team member unless you prove you have a legit reason for it, because people aren't often sick every week unless they have a special medical condition. Once in awhile people can accept that something happened, but when it becomes an every week or every few weeks thing people obviously get suspicious.
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    Last edited by Miste; 06-10-2018 at 11:42 PM.