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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Because the static is so important that you need to take a stern hand with your friend, possibly to the point of kicking them, otherwise clearing this fight will be impossible. The whole skill threshold for this and organizational threshhold is so high, comparable to certain types of raiding, that you have to manage your friends as if they are working with you. In other mmos, it exists, but it seems to be much harsher here, comparable to the aforementioned pvp games.

    I think this kind of game transforms the relationship badly, and players for some reason kind of default to "it's the players fault" in the sense that the static is more important or the goal is. The op is surprised that people are the way they are, but I always wonder why no one ever looks at the game itself.

    Oh as for fun, eh.I meant it in the population sense, which affects the OP who recruited from his FC. If someone gives an excuse not to do something, there really are just two options if it isnt legit. They don't like it, or they don't like you. My bet is on the former, because usually, people who organize are pretty nice.
    If you and your FC mate/friend/significant other are wanting to commit to a static with you, you have to learn to separate the personal relationship enough that it doesn’t negatively impact the relationship between the static members. I think of it similar to working with your spouse/running a business together with them: you have to make sure that your relationship doesn’t negatively impact the way the business functions. I have known a few statics that have been led by a person who let in their significant other, and the significant other caused a lot of drama in the static as well as not being on the same page as the other members, and the leader did nothing about it. Eventually, the static exploded because the other members got tired of it, and they left.

    This is not to say I expect Savage to be the equivalent of a job—just that progging and clearing content like Savage (and Ultimate) takes a bit more work than the other content in the game. And if there’s trouble brewing within the group, it’s going to make prog (and even weeklies) feel more and more like a chore...which isn’t the purpose of a game. I have been in groups where there is drama and the like, where the leader didn’t want to do anything about it, and where members have not been on the same page, and it made me dislike running the content for a time until I found a more positive environment. You spend so much time with the people in a static, you kind of need the environment to be positive and healthy as opposed to negative and drama-ridden.

    With regards to the OP, his problems seemed to stem from being afraid to have this stern hand as a static leader out of a desire to make sure he doesn’t hurt his friends. And while I understand that completely, you also have to think about what the “drama” is doing to the rest of the group. And the decision to kick/replace/have a stern talking to with the offender is never easy, and less so if they’re your friend. Which is why people are saying that being a static leader is hard to do, but maybe it’s easier to do if you’re doing it with strangers as opposed to friends. It’s a bit easier to be sterner with strangers than it is with your friends or your FC mates or your significant other.

    I personally think it is more fun to raid with friends. But when you’re doing that, you have to make sure that everyone is on the same page, and that any budding drama is nipped in the bud very quickly. You also have to have a strong enough relationship that mild bickerments do not impact the static or the friendship, and the leader has to let themselves be a leader as opposed to always trying to be a friend to everyone. I have also known static leaders like that, and it never spells anything good for the group trying to be everyone’s buddy as opposed to making the tough decisions one has to make when they are in a leadership position (e.g., someone no-shows to raid for two months straight, and the leader refuses to kick them because they’re friends, and instead forces the group to PUG a member each week...which may or may not go smoothly; this is a true story). And it is also the reason why I do not want to be a static leader, because I would function very much the same, and I don’t think that would be healthy for the life of the group.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 06-09-2018 at 01:59 PM.
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