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    MetatronPrime's Avatar
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    Aergwyb Ghotbreanawyn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70

    Angry Kick Abuse and Reporting

    I wish it was as easy to report people for this as it was RMT advertisers because it happens frequently. Every time I report but it's a chore to have to wait for a GM to respond and when they do you better pray you're not in a duty. I was unlucky enough to be in Castrum Meridianum so I couldn't respond and the GM left. Anyways, can any GM answer what actually happens to the people after they're reported? Kick abuse is extremely annoying and I'd like to know if anything is done at all. There's a policy I read in the game that says they don't tell the victim if any actions were taken. Why not?! I would like to know what's done, if anything, or am I wasting my time reporting?
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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    If you're being kicked from unrelated groups frequently, that's not abuse. That's dealing with what sounds like an obvious problem.
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    Player ShadowHunterrX's Avatar
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    Mivau Lawantal
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetatronPrime View Post
    I wish it was as easy to report people for this as it was RMT advertisers because it happens frequently. Every time I report but it's a chore to have to wait for a GM to respond and when they do you better pray you're not in a duty. I was unlucky enough to be in Castrum Meridianum so I couldn't respond and the GM left. Anyways, can any GM answer what actually happens to the people after they're reported? Kick abuse is extremely annoying and I'd like to know if anything is done at all. There's a policy I read in the game that says they don't tell the victim if any actions were taken. Why not?! I would like to know what's done, if anything, or am I wasting my time reporting?
    So how many times have you being kicked out of the party ?
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    Player AppleJinx's Avatar
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    Apple Jinx
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    Do you report every groups that kicks you? Have you thought about why you are being kicked so frequently like you claim to be?
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Finally found it. Now I don't know much about your precise circumstances, but the sentiment still holds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.
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    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Don't think kick abuse is really a thing, it's such a pain to get a replacement that just dealing with the bad egg is often easier

    You must be a real piece of work if this is a common occurrence
    The fact that you feel the need to talk to a GM about every kicking is kind of telling as well
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    Trixie_Strider's Avatar
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    J'oker Jhin
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJinx View Post
    Do you report every groups that kicks you? Have you thought about why you are being kicked so frequently like you claim to be?
    Before you go blaiming them allegedly. It does happen people do kick one another just for the sake of being disliked. Being disliked by a party is not a good enough reason to be kicked out. Cause if they're not liked, as long as they're following the rules, you cannot kick them technically.

    Kick Abuse is when you misuse the reason why the player is kicked, for it gives you the options on why you wish to kick this player.

    Verbal Abuse, Griefing, AFK, Disconnection, and Cheacting if I'm not mistaken.

    If you dare to kick someone by FALSE accusations and reports, you (not you just you in general) are abusing the system and for that, the person who is doing the reporting should be caught and reported themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    Don't think kick abuse is really a thing, it's such a pain to get a replacement that just dealing with the bad egg is often easier

    You must be a real piece of work if this is a common occurrence
    The fact that you feel the need to talk to a GM about every kicking is kind of telling as well
    No this sort of thing does happen, and it is only right that those who abuse the system with FALSE kick and reporting should be reported themselves
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    Last edited by Trixie_Strider; 06-07-2018 at 04:52 PM.

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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider View Post
    Before you go blaiming them allegedly. It does happen people do kick one another just for the sake of being disliked. Being disliked by a party is not a good enough reason to be kicked out. Cause if they're not liked, as long as they're following the rules, you cannot kick them technically.

    Kick Abuse is when you misuse the reason why the player is kicked, for it gives you the options on why you wish to kick this player.

    Verbal Abuse, Griefing, AFK, Disconnection, and Cheacting if I'm not mistaken.

    If you dare to kick someone by FALSE accusations and reports, you (not you just you in general) are abusing the system and for that, the person who is doing the reporting should be caught and reported themselves.

    No one said kick abuse doesn't happen. However, based on the way the OP frames their issue they're being kicked very frequently from multiple unrelated parties. I don't think it's very difficult to figure out what the problem is.

    I'm also not quite sure why you think kicking someone because you "dislike" them is against the rules, especially when that dislike generally would stem from the player's actions, which is a valid reason to kick.

    GMs have also all but said that you can kick for reasons other than what the system shows you. For example, the (in)famous "differences in playstyle", which is a pretty broad ruling that covers just about everything but very clear harassment.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    You actually can send tells to GMs while in a duty, you just have to right-click their name and select send /tell. GMs have enough power to open up /tell channels for conversation with you while you’re in a dungeon or the like; it’s just asking for patience of you party members at that point. The two times I’ve had to speak with GMs while inside a duty, mine have had no issue with it.

    That being said, if you are getting repeatedly kicked out of parties at an alarmingly high rate, the problem probably does not lie with the party members.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider View Post
    Kick Abuse is when you misuse the reason why the player is kicked, for it gives you the options on why you wish to kick this player.

    Verbal Abuse, Griefing, AFK, Disconnection, and Cheacting if I'm not mistaken.
    The reasons for dismissal are Cheating, AFK, Offline, and Difference of Playstyle. Basically anything and everything can fall under the last category, and GMs have said that it is a legitimate reason to kick for “differences of playstyle”. Basically they will only act if there is blatant abuse going on, and that usually requires chat log evidence.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 06-07-2018 at 05:43 PM.
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    Nenemi Nemi
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    Balmung
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    I have been playing since 2.0 release and been kicked maybe 1-2 times for no apparent reason it's a very rare occurrence and if your a tank unless your not keeping hate people are usually forgiving even if your not the best due to potentially having to wait for a replacement which can take a while.

    If it's happening frequently there probably is a reason and your just wasting GM's time who are not going to do anything anyways. I don't think I have ever heard of someone getting a warning for it.
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