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  1. #1
    Player
    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Rescue isn't useless a smart healer knows when it would be useful i.e. an lb at the wrong time.

    the new ex trial if someone is to far with their metoer to ensure the survive you can rescue them....

    O5s you can rescue someone who is moving to slow after pray markers resolve..

    There are other opportunities but it's not only a troll device will u always take it absolutely not but rare chances u can
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    the new ex trial if someone is to far with their metoer to ensure the survive you can rescue them....
    O5s you can rescue someone who is moving to slow after pray markers resolve..
    Treoretical: yes.
    Practical: the encounters aren't designed around rescue. You will be fine if you know how and when to move.
    Why the hell should I do the work for you? I already have to compensate for every misstep of the group as best I can.
    There is a sprint for a reason. Use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    If that is the only conclusion you came to, then you should delete your account.



    Dude, you didn't even bother to read anything before posting, so I guess before you even begin moralizing people, you should read the thread and see how things evolved... like many others here and there on this forum...



    This is what I mean by empathy problems.
    Your friends are your friends.
    Strangers are strangers.
    If you still don't even understand what is wrong with doing that to strangers, then the problem is beyond just gaming, it is about your everyday social interactions....
    I won't develop that matter any further than that.
    You just told someone to delete their account, then go on to talk about empathy problems. I personally have issues with empathy and social interactions, but even by my wonky interpretation that seems kind of off.

    Our healer has pulled out some clutch saves with rescue, though I will be lying if I said I have not seen them troll the hell out of people with it. Really though should we remove every skill that has the potential to be used in a trolling manner? Aggro transfers, and ast cards come to minds that can be used in a trolling manner, should we remove those skills?
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    Last edited by Awha; 06-06-2018 at 01:02 PM.

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    Neri's Avatar
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Eh, I put my idea up as a joke. Should be able to tell because of the confirmation box, since it will take too long to click (yes) twice, lol.
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    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Character
    Lady Zelda
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 92
    Man I love to rescue people. I saved so many with it. Susano Ex, does anyone else remember the days of rescue pulling dps in? I've rescued so many people drowning in the new alliance raid mechanic that I don't understand the hate. Esuna is worthless atm in stomblood content. I have not needed to Esuna in a long time. So I do shelf Esuna for Rescue and let me tell you its so nice - I wish they lowered the CD I would love to save the same person who has latency issues from mechs. I know they must be bashing their head into the wall when they die. So a little more rescue goes a long way.
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    Emstidor's Avatar
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    Emstidor Diabolos
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 71
    If I was a rescue-using troll I'd be ecstatic at the extent of the jimmies I rustled here.
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    Last edited by Emstidor; 06-06-2018 at 02:50 PM.

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    KoshikiMurasaki's Avatar
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    Character
    Mirage Peacifilia
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    I think there is nothing wrong with skill.
    It's good and useful.
    It's just...someone used it in bad way.

    I still want "Rescue" because it's useful in many situations.
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Problem: "Oh there's nothing to do on my downtime on my healer because I'm a green DPS"/s
    Solution from SE: "Here's something you can do, Rescue!"
    Result: "Trolling"

    Seriously, I've seen quite a few places where Rescue could optionally be used, but they're along the lines of "pulling player out of a animation/stun" lock more than anything else, and that has limited strategic value unless the target was already squishy.
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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Why I didn't bother to even do it is because I am pretty sure they will get away without anything, so I'll just waste my time.
    Give a tool to trolls to harass people, but at the same time it isn't much of an offense so that even if trolls use it, they won't risk much... or nothing at all (most probably this).
    ...
    They should always be repoerted.

    Even if this singular report doesn't lead to action on their account, it will be a mark.
    If they continiously do little acts of harassment those marks will add up to action against them.


    If the GM's are not made aware of someone's penchant for disagreeable actions, they can't do anything.
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    Mixt Bell
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Titan (Hard) it trials roulette.

    Healer Rescues me into the part of the arena that falls of when he jumps in the early parts of the fight, there is not enough time to get into safety, and we both fall off.

    Cue the "OMG BAD TANK! U SUCK!" screaming in my direction because i "Suicided"
    Because apparantly the healer being an ass is somehow my fault.

    The group manages to wipe, and when the fight resets i respond by spamming the /Slap emote at the healer while calling him a asshat, because he is.
    And the healer goes absolutely ballistic, because i am not allowed to get mad at him for what he did, and the whole thing devolves into a flame war.


    And then there's the whole "Pull the tank into the group just before a large cleave so the boss turns and murders the whole party, then blame the tank for it" thing going around.

    Yes, i'm an idiot who wipes the party because the healer decides to forcibly relocate me so the boss turns just before a cleave...
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