Remove role action Rescue : only a tool for trolling and poor gameplay

[Bobby66]

It is reportable , report them and they will get banned, I have seen it happen, SE GMs don’t fuck around with any abuse, that’s why we have very nice community because they enforce it unlike wow.

My sincere gratitude to all SE GMs, you guys are a beacon of the community , you are the reason we have a nice community,I have seen actual abuser banned 100% of the time if the abuse are within the guideline, Again SE GM don’t fuck around ,anyone who want to test the waters to even remotely try to troll with rescue do it at our own peril.

See I do not get this the GD is freaking long, and if someone does report all someone has to say is oops sorry. What will a GM have to go by?

[UkcsAlias]

What will a GM have to go by?

Report counts. If someone does this every single game, its blatant that this is no longer an excuse. Thats why you also shouldnt be too afraid to report if you feel it was a troll. If its truly an accident, then nothing will happen anyway (you wont get punished for a single invalid report either). Trolls are often very good at doing it at frustrating moments, and outside of that act like nothing happened. The volume (and rate) of reports however wont lie about it.

With good logging, a GM can have a lot of information to go by. Making a decision easy. A single fat finger pull that caused a wipe on that wont do a lot, even if that player got 7 reports in that game. Simply because that might just have been a single event. Getting 2 reports 4 games in a row however will be suspicious.

[jadeblade]

Report counts. If someone does this every single game, its blatant that this is no longer an excuse. Thats why you also shouldnt be too afraid to report if you feel it was a troll. If its truly an accident, then nothing will happen anyway (you wont get punished for a single invalid report either). Trolls are often very good at doing it at frustrating moments, and outside of that act like nothing happened. The volume (and rate) of reports however wont lie about it.

With good logging, a GM can have a lot of information to go by. Making a decision easy. A single fat finger pull that caused a wipe on that wont do a lot, even if that player got 7 reports in that game. Simply because that might just have been a single event. Getting 2 reports 4 games in a row however will be suspicious.

This ,people please don’t be afraid to report any abuse. It will be acted upon.I have seen it, they made couple of toxic people quit this game . Any form of toxicity isn’t welcomed in this game even a minor N00b you would say Willy nilly in wow is bannable here, right away, and by right away I mean minutes.

[Bobby66]

Report counts. If someone does this every single game, its blatant that this is no longer an excuse. Thats why you also shouldnt be too afraid to report if you feel it was a troll. If its truly an accident, then nothing will happen anyway (you wont get punished for a single invalid report either). Trolls are often very good at doing it at frustrating moments, and outside of that act like nothing happened. The volume (and rate) of reports however wont lie about it.

With good logging, a GM can have a lot of information to go by. Making a decision easy. A single fat finger pull that caused a wipe on that wont do a lot, even if that player got 7 reports in that game. Simply because that might just have been a single event. Getting 2 reports 4 games in a row however will be suspicious.

Still at that point the justification is based around suspension and not fact. From my own personal experience ot seems GM'd prefer hard evidence.

I mean if someone is open about it I could and talk about it in game I could see action being taken, but even if it happens often the intention could be in the right 0lace but execution was poorly timed. If the player frames it is right during questioning it does not seem like an easy thing to prove.

[BluexBird]

Rescue has a huge cooldown. To the point where even if someone does use it to abuse you, you can just shrug it off and move on. They can't continuously spam it, and if they keep doing it after every wipe you can just kick them from the party.

As a healer I like using Rescue especially during trials like Sophia. Or sometimes during certain dungeon mechanics. Do I need to do it? No. But they are stunned and about to get hit by the AoE.

[Evergrey]

I've never had the problem with troll-rescues.
Whenever I've been rescued it's been to help me avoid a mechanic or something I was too slow to avoid or was inexperienced with.

[SturmChurro]

I've never had the problem with troll-rescues.
Whenever I've been rescued it's been to help me avoid a mechanic or something I was too slow to avoid or was inexperienced with.

For me, I'm not even referring to troll rescues, but the ones who actually have good intentions, but just don't use it properly. The skill needs to be pretimed otherwise it's too late, and can even pull one into other mechanics unintentionally. Like I've said, I appreciate the thought, but people need to stop if they can't use it properly. The possibility of it being timed and used properly - to save a life - is the only reason I haven't written it off.

[Dancingweapon]

Don't remove it please. I've saved plenty of sprouts and had myself saved by a few wonderful healers (even in EW content I'm running for the first time - people learn cues quickly lmao). I've never seen it used in trolling (outside of friends messing around with each other in closed content) but I imagine it does happen from time to time. Been playing a long old time now and not witnessed it once myself however. At least I've never seen someone call someone out for killing them or trolling them with rescue. It may have happened in an Alliance Raid but I just didn't see it happen.

Point being, I don't think it's enough of a problem for them to remove it. Especially how satisfying it is when used correctly. Someone thanking you for the rescue always feels great and it's not like you get it pull it off often. Often time I'm too late and all I pull off is that funny death slide that happens. At least their corpse is within raise distance in that case...

I've heard some people accidently use it, but I'm sure in most circumstances that wouldn't lead to a death and maybe just a bit of lost DPS. Nothing a quick "Ooops, didn't mean to use that - sorry!" wouldn't fix. Most people are understanding.

[SherlottaEryut]

I’ve never come across anyone who misused the Rescue ability. If anything, especially as of late, I have come across healers who have used it successfully and saved me from a sticky situation.

If anyone misuses it for the sake of trolling then just report them. Just make sure it wasn’t a mistake rather than jump to assumptions though.

[Jybril]

The only issue is that it is not instant as it takes like 2 seconds for the person to be pulled close to you.
It's useful when it works and handy but still meh to me.