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    VictorNCroix's Avatar
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    Victor Delacroi
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    Wow Handles this Better

    Personally as someone who mains healer I think Rescue is a garbage skill and no one is going to learn mechanics if you are rescuing them from them. I refuse to even put rescue on my hot bar when I could have told a sprout or person whom is new to content the mechanics before hand and if we wipe I am more than willing to do the content multiple times until we get it right.

    Content is also garbage if rescue is a necessity plain and simple that is just fact.

    There should be an option in game settings to opt out of rescue entirely and giving the party a notification, "this player has opted out of rescue adjustment" so the whole party knows their healer just tried to rescue troll someone.

    WoW has this option for their rescue skill however I feel it should go above and beyond with the notification going party wide.

    I have never had rescue used on me efficiently when playing as a DPS class it is always used as a skill a healer uses when they are bored and they want to troll someone or get someone killed.

    I cannot tell you how many times I have had to make a ticket for rescue abuse while playing as a healer in raids and the other healer thinking it is funny to kill the DPS with the skill or me. Or when I am playing a DPS in those raids and those healers think those same things in those raids.

    Then when I throw up my macro that says hey please do not use rescue on me thank you, I am met with vitriol and ire. The simple fact that I have rescue used on me abusively so often that I have a macro for it is evidence enough that this skill needs to be canned or the ability to be opted out of.
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    Akimori's Avatar
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorNCroix View Post
    Personally as someone who mains healer I think Rescue is a garbage skill and no one is going to learn mechanics if you are rescuing them from them. I refuse to even put rescue on my hot bar when I could have told a sprout or person whom is new to content the mechanics before hand and if we wipe I am more than willing to do the content multiple times until we get it right.

    Content is also garbage if rescue is a necessity plain and simple that is just fact.

    There should be an option in game settings to opt out of rescue entirely and giving the party a notification, "this player has opted out of rescue adjustment" so the whole party knows their healer just tried to rescue troll someone.

    WoW has this option for their rescue skill however I feel it should go above and beyond with the notification going party wide.

    I have never had rescue used on me efficiently when playing as a DPS class it is always used as a skill a healer uses when they are bored and they want to troll someone or get someone killed.

    I cannot tell you how many times I have had to make a ticket for rescue abuse while playing as a healer in raids and the other healer thinking it is funny to kill the DPS with the skill or me. Or when I am playing a DPS in those raids and those healers think those same things in those raids.

    Then when I throw up my macro that says hey please do not use rescue on me thank you, I am met with vitriol and ire. The simple fact that I have rescue used on me abusively so often that I have a macro for it is evidence enough that this skill needs to be canned or the ability to be opted out of.
    I respectfully disagree because some savage content strats designed by players makes it easier with rescue. It also has its uses. yes, the skill has the high potential for trolling, but it also has the high potential for its usability as well.

    Sorry that you are meeting such players in game, but your experiences don't warrant the skill being removed in its entirety
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    Thea Sitori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    I respectfully disagree because some savage content strats designed by players makes it easier with rescue. It also has its uses. yes, the skill has the high potential for trolling, but it also has the high potential for its usability as well.

    Sorry that you are meeting such players in game, but your experiences don't warrant the skill being removed in its entirety
    Yep, this kind of goes with the same fact that many people still think job balance is made primarily for dungeons and normal content, which isn't the case. Savage is the barometer for job balance and skills because this is where all of them, including rescue and other former role skills such as Surecast are used 100%.
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    Father Gascoigne
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    I've had this discussion before, and the best solution to this problem is to simply allow people to opt out of Rescue working on them. Make it a toggle that's on by default, and put a little debuff next to the players Party frame so Healers know he can't be Rescued. World of Warcraft already does this, because they understand how much players despise intrusive abilities like that.

    I agree that Rescue is primarily a troll button, and in my experience does way more harm than good. I would turn it off IMMEDIATELY if I had the option, but I understand some people use it in their statics to cheese mechanics or optimize, so just let people who don't want it used on them opt out of it.
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Why was this necroed?
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    Myifee Asurai
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    I saved my new, sprout cohealer from Ancient Flare in CT a few days ago in the nick of time. It felt pretty good, and they picked up on the mechanic pretty much right away after.

    It has it's place. It also just enables people to be dicks, too.
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    Marilith
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    Alright, I actually have had it now. If you can't use rescue responsibly, don't use it. Please and thank you. I am near convinced now that it actually does need to be removed. Not there yet, but the more healers keep either pulling me into mechanics, or pulling me out of nothing, I am getting closer and closer to that conclusion. I appreciate the thought, but stop it.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

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    Tai Natuia
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 85
    Please no, do not remove rescue. It is a skill similar to sleep and the now gone fluid aura. I would rather another skill that you can use in creative ways just taken out because 'people don't use it' and 'but trolls use it wrong'. Trolls will use all of their skills. By your logic they should remove provoke too because tanks like to have a voke war during alliance raids and cleave the party.

    Just report them for greifing as was said previously. Maybe ask them why they did it in chat if they legitimately didn't 'fat finger' the skill or mistimed using it properly. If they admit to purposely killing you it will be the easiest report of your life.
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Yesterday, a healer killed me by pulling me into an aoe, because he said I was pulling aggro on his tank friend and -
    *rescues you in to a hole*
    *toggles apology macro*
    "Oops sorry fat fingered it
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    Arthur Wolfe
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorNCroix View Post
    Personally as someone who mains healer I think Rescue is a garbage skill and no one is going to learn mechanics if you are rescuing them from them. I refuse to even put rescue on my hot bar when I could have told a sprout or person whom is new to content the mechanics before hand and if we wipe I am more than willing to do the content multiple times until we get it right.

    Content is also garbage if rescue is a necessity plain and simple that is just fact.

    There should be an option in game settings to opt out of rescue entirely and giving the party a notification, "this player has opted out of rescue adjustment" so the whole party knows their healer just tried to rescue troll someone.

    WoW has this option for their rescue skill however I feel it should go above and beyond with the notification going party wide.

    I have never had rescue used on me efficiently when playing as a DPS class it is always used as a skill a healer uses when they are bored and they want to troll someone or get someone killed.

    I cannot tell you how many times I have had to make a ticket for rescue abuse while playing as a healer in raids and the other healer thinking it is funny to kill the DPS with the skill or me. Or when I am playing a DPS in those raids and those healers think those same things in those raids.

    Then when I throw up my macro that says hey please do not use rescue on me thank you, I am met with vitriol and ire. The simple fact that I have rescue used on me abusively so often that I have a macro for it is evidence enough that this skill needs to be canned or the ability to be opted out of.
    It is reportable , report them and they will get banned, I have seen it happen, SE GMs don’t fuck around with any abuse, that’s why we have very nice community because they enforce it unlike wow.

    My sincere gratitude to all SE GMs, you guys are a beacon of the community , you are the reason we have a nice community,I have seen actual abuser banned 100% of the time if the abuse are within the guideline, Again SE GM don’t fuck around ,anyone who want to test the waters to even remotely try to troll with rescue do it at our own peril.
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    Last edited by jadeblade; 12-20-2021 at 09:12 PM.

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