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  1. 09-05-2019 04:01 AM
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    Sabora_Makingai's Avatar
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    Sabora Makingai
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Loaded into E1N do a ready check, a HEALER isnt ready yet. and a DNC (who was both under-geared and a tool) in party chat "OMG come one already"
    Healer hits "ready" so we get the 8/8.
    I hit the 20 sec countdown because there a nin, sch, and dnc in the party
    5 seconds later the same DNC "This is taking too long" and pulls the boss.
    wipe
    try again. same. fucking. thing
    So this time I DM the OT (who was a total bro) and give him the details of my revenge. We both agree to pull in tank stance and play agro tag for a minute. then right before the TB comes out, we turn off tank stacne and BOTH shirk the DNC. He gets killed.

    I should note that before we pulled, we DMd the rest of the party to let them know the plan

    Healers didn't raise the DNC and at 2% we all stop attacking and let the boss kill us. wipe

    DNC ofc freaks TF out. to which we all basically reply "sorry, we weren't ready for the pull, maybe wait for the countdown next time".

    DNC leaves, and we 7 man the raid

    *we could have finished but I didnt want to give the DNC a carry so that why we reset at the end
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    AnimaAnimus's Avatar
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabora_Makingai View Post
    Loaded into E1N do a ready check, a HEALER isnt ready yet. and a DNC (who was both under-geared and a tool) in party chat "OMG come one already"
    Healer hits "ready" so we get the 8/8.
    I hit the 20 sec countdown because there a nin, sch, and dnc in the party
    5 seconds later the same DNC "This is taking too long" and pulls the boss.
    wipe
    try again. same. fucking. thing
    So this time I DM the OT (who was a total bro) and give him the details of my revenge. We both agree to pull in tank stance and play agro tag for a minute. then right before the TB comes out, we turn off tank stacne and BOTH shirk the DNC. He gets killed.

    I should note that before we pulled, we DMd the rest of the party to let them know the plan

    Healers didn't raise the DNC and at 2% we all stop attacking and let the boss kill us. wipe

    DNC ofc freaks TF out. to which we all basically reply "sorry, we weren't ready for the pull, maybe wait for the countdown next time".

    DNC leaves, and we 7 man the raid

    *we could have finished but I didnt want to give the DNC a carry so that why we reset at the end
    Wait, you can DM in Eden? I thought the block all tells in instances cause something something harassment. Did they remove that and I just totally missed that bit of info? And how where you able to get 7 tells out fast enough to coordinate all that, while dodging in E1?
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Wait, you can DM in Eden? I thought the block all tells in instances cause something something harassment. Did they remove that and I just totally missed that bit of info? And how where you able to get 7 tells out fast enough to coordinate all that, while dodging in E1?
    I think he meant discord/fc/ls (one of those 3) dm.

    You still can't actually get tells while in duties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    In low level content (50-67) I just spam flare, aoe thunder, and freeze because I can't be bothered to put fire II on my hotbar, and because I think fire II is a horrible spell that needs to go away from my hotbar ASAP.

    But blm aoe just feels weak at low levels regardless, and it's kind of disappointing.
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    Watching forum drama be like

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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I once was an frost-mage as I saw a white mage who did nothing but heal and didn't want to hard-carry them for free.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

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    Arthrun's Avatar
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    Arthrun Findore
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    Faerie
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I turn off Tank stance if a DPS wants to pull groups ahead of me. I don't mind pulling wall to wall to much If I know my healer can handle it. I typically ask healer what his pace is. I have encountered so many healers that just cant seem to keep up in duty finder.

    When I dps, I purposely refuse to do aoe spells when I dps when there is a guy who yells at the healer for not keeping up with the tank
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    Makeda's Avatar
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    Makeda Fyah
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    I feel that while FFXIV offers one of the best maintank experiences in any MMO the offtank experience is horrible. I view the offtank role as wearing a dunce hat: you do less DPS and have no control over the fight... you’re basically dead weight. Being offtank is riding the short bus... except you’re not in the bus, you’re strapped to the front bumper Mad Max style with a gag on...

    FFXIV offtank design is basically “you only exist in case the MT refuses a rez after failing a mechanic”. Sure sometimes you share a cleave but that’s like giving someone a last meal in their way to the gallows...

    So...

    I get “triggered” when my co-tank wants to maintank but won’t say so, and instead just pulls right after I put up the countdown.
    When that happens I go into berserk mode. I will time provoke to go off 1 second after Leeroy tries to provoke. I will line up tank busters to hit Leeroy in the blast / cleave. I have even kept it up when I highly suspected the healers were not able to keep us up.

    If there is no tank drama... when I join a DF my fingers are hovering over my keybinds for tank stance to try and be the first one to have it on when I zone in, so I can avoid being the dunce, er, OT.

    If we both had it on when I zone in and nothing is said, I will have the countdown timer open and hit it the second the gate goes down.

    All that said if the other tank speaks up, or I zone in with stance off or if I join someone else’s party I will back off and wear the dunce hat...

    Lastly... I’d confess that I have been hesitant to accept roles as a tank in statics, even for my own FC, for fear that I might be asked to offrank.

    I obsessively watch the gear of anyone leveling a tank in my FC hoping they give up so I won’t have to fight it out over the maintank spot... because my nature is to be gracious and... well... I will switch roles or dust off my WoW tanks (where tanking is not that great, but at least MT and OT are equals), before I accept offtanking ...
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    Last edited by Makeda; 09-05-2019 at 05:32 AM.
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    Player
    Arthrun's Avatar
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    Arthrun Findore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    I feel that while FFXIV offers one of the best maintank experiences in any MMO the offtank experience is horrible. I view the offtank role as wearing a dunce hat: you do less DPS and have no control over the fight... you’re basically dead weight. Being offtank is riding the short bus... except you’re not in the bus, you’re strapped to the front bumper Mad Max style with a gag on...

    FFXIV offtank design is basically “you only exist in case the MT refuses a rez after failing a mechanic”. Sure sometimes you share a cleave but that’s like giving someone a last meal in their way to the gallows...

    So...

    I get “triggered” when my co-tank wants to maintank but won’t say so, and instead just pulls right after I put up the countdown.
    When that happens I go into berserk mode. I will time provoke to go off 1 second after Leeroy tries to provoke. I will line up tank busters to hit Leeroy in the blast / cleave. I have even kept it up when I highly suspected the healers were not able to keep us up.

    If there is no tank drama... when I join a DF my fingers are hovering over my keybinds for tank stance to try and be the first one to have it on when I zone in, so I can avoid being the dunce, er, OT.

    If we both had it on when I zone in and nothing is said, I will have the countdown timer open and hit it the second the gate goes down.

    All that said if the other tank speaks up, or I zone in with stance off or if I join someone else’s party I will back off and wear the dunce hat...

    Lastly... I’d confess that I have been hesitant to accept roles as a tank in statics, even for my own FC, for fear that I might be asked to offrank.

    I obsessively watch the gear of anyone leveling a tank in my FC hoping they give up so I won’t have to fight it out over the maintank spot... because my nature is to be gracious and... well... I will switch roles or dust off my WoW tanks (where tanking is not that great, but at least MT and OT are equals), before I accept offtanking ...
    Thats actually really funny. I play GNB as my main because I love the aesthitic of the job. so I never quite mind to be an OT in many positions. If you have a static group and need an OT hit me up. I do not mind doing mindless things most of the time as long as I can MT a couple of fights just to know the fight inside and out. hit me up on discord if you so want. Berusein#2841
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    Anienai's Avatar
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
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    You gotta glamour a dunce cap when off tanking.
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