Patch 4.3 Dungeon unhappiness

[Denatris]

In patch 4.2, when the new dungeon, Hell's Lid, was connected to the Four Lords storyline and seperated from the main storyline, no mention was made by anyone at SE that this would be the new way of things, and what was to come. Now lands patch 4.3, and the new DUngeon, Swallow's Compass, is again tied to the Four Lords storyline, but now we come to realize that we MUST fight the Four Lords in order to open a dungeon for the Duty Roulette. I AM NOT HAPPY WITH CHOICE BEING REMOVED. In 4.2 I could make the choice to NOT do Byakko. Now I am being slapped in the FACE by SE and told ...YOU WILL DO BYAKKO IN ORDER TO UNLOCK A DUTY ROULETTE DUNGEON. Thank you SE, for REMOVING MY CHOICE, and FORCING me to do content that I may otherwise not choose to do. Can you please tell us what you will FORCE US to do next, so that I may prepare myself ?? Thank you for your attention. And Yoshi-P...if you are reading this...I give this patch a grade of D minus for this reason. Thank you.

[Theodric]

It's really not that big a deal.

What, exactly, is preventing you from tackling the Four Lords story-line?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Why wouldn't you do Byakko? Content is locked behind sidequests all the time...

[Alaray]

Yeah, it's like you have to fight multiple primals and trials or something to progress the MSQ, too or something. Completely unexpected, it's not like we all had to fight Ifrit at level 20 to... wait.

[Lauront]

Can't tell if trolling...

[Canadane]

Can't tell if trolling...

Well, I can.

[Nandalowell]

I'm too lazy/have no one to carry me through Byakko so I'm kind of stuck not being able to do my roulette too.

[Vrankyl]

I'm too lazy/have no one to carry me through Byakko so I'm kind of stuck not being able to do my roulette too.

Byakko NM is pretty much faceroll easy. I was't too sure at first since I had an alt that still hadn't done it, but with the average ilvl now he is a pushover. Had a 10 min queue, both tanks insta dropped, we got one replacement and 7 manned him with no problems and 3 of the people in it had never seen the fight before while the rest hadn't done it in months. This is honestly no different than having to complete Shinryu NM.

[Keys2tkingdom]

Can't tell if trolling...

If he is, the OP still voicing a sentiment shared by others.

Yeah, it's like you have to fight multiple primals and trials or something to progress the MSQ, too or something. Completely unexpected, it's not like we all had to fight Ifrit at level 20 to... wait.

This argument falls apart one you realize that up to this update any primal or trial not directly related to the MSQ were 100% optional. You never HAD to do them to unlocked new dungeons.

And I am a fairly casual player and I avoid 8 and 24 man content because I just don't find them as enjoyable as 4 man content. Mainly because of IRL physical and mental disabilities, I'm not good and coping with mechanics that will straight up kill you if you fail, vs mechanics that only have the possibility of killing you if you fail.

As such, my only real source for upgrades come from Ex dungeons and tomes. And the best way to grind those is the roulette. So I was also very upset to learn that my only viable way of upgrading myself in an acceptable amount of time was locked behind a type of content I never wanted touch.

"But why would you want avoid such content, you filthy casual?", you ask. Because, my dear elitists, would you rather play with a player who can cope with the skill level required of the 8 and 24 man content, or would you rather play with a player who once he fails a mechanic a couple of times his mental state starts to worsen and negatively affect his in-game performance?

I prefer playing with people who would choose the later option, but reality isn't that nice.


Since 4-man content allows for more room for error, I can more easily do what I need to do to without causing myself to selfdestruct over stress. So yes, the OP has a point. Optional primals and optional trials should be kept separate from dungeons so all players have an equal chance to do all content - whether or not the actually choose to do it should be left up to the player.

[Derio]

This has got to be a troll