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    AshlikeSnow's Avatar
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    Crafting from Retainer INVENTORY?

    Greetings,

    I have 2 retainers that are strictly HQ mat deposits and 3 retainers that are normal quality deposits. I don't mind the current system where you can search for an item and the system will let you know which retainer has that item stored if indeed you do have said item and which tab that item is in. BUT, I think it would be a great thing if the crafting interface could list mats that are not stored in your immediate inventory but rather takes your retainers inventory into account.

    I think this could save a lot of time rummaging through your retainer inventories.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Wont happen.....it would make macro'ing crafting a total run away thing.

    As for searching for items...you just right click...and you get told where it is..even the tab.

    This is why you should craft near a retainer bell....makes it easy.

    Yes..its annoying...but what makes things easier...can be exploited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Wont happen.....it would make macro'ing crafting a total run away thing.
    I don't understand what you mean by this.
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    Khalith Mateo
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    We should be able to craft directly from our retainer inventory and not being able to is one of many of the little inconveniences about crafting. For example, LET ME SWAP CRAFTERS WHILE STILL IN THE CRAFTING WINDOW WITHOUT HAVING TO CLOSE IT SE.

    But anyway, despite the fact that I'd love to be able to do that, SE already said that we are unable to craft from the retainer inventories due to technical reasons, I can't remember the specifics but bear with me here, it's something like the items in our retainers are stored on a separate space to our inventory and they can't have one connect to the other because it would cause too much stress on the hardware.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
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    Keep in mind that you need to think bigger numbers in terms of "load".

    Take the total number of players in FFXIV worldwide.
    Times 2.....or up to the maximum retainers one can have.
    Times the number of items in storage.

    At this point your brains should exploded.

    Storage is not the problem in terms of hardware....its the handling of said data...and communication.
    Again...this leads to major exploitation issues.


    MY only gripe in this crafting system is the inability to pull a search result from the GATHERING log....not the crafting log. But alas....QoL seems a distant memory/thought these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    MY only gripe in this crafting system is the inability to pull a search result from the GATHERING log....not the crafting log. But alas....QoL seems a distant memory/thought these days.
    I may be misunderstanding this, but you are able to search for an item from the gathering log, at least for mining/botany. Anglers appear to be SOL still as we cannot search from the log, and there is no quick search for fish/locations. Was there another issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I may be misunderstanding this, but you are able to search for an item from the gathering log, at least for mining/botany. Anglers appear to be SOL still as we cannot search from the log, and there is no quick search for fish/locations. Was there another issue?
    You can't search for the gathering log entry from the crafting log. Ex open iron ingot recipe, right click iron ore and select "search gathering log" or something to that effect, would be a nice QoL add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You can't search for the gathering log entry from the crafting log. Ex open iron ingot recipe, right click iron ore and select "search gathering log" or something to that effect, would be a nice QoL add.
    Skivvy is correct, this is already an option. I believe the text is something like "Search for item by gathering method." As he said, you can't search for fish, but you can absolutely search for mining or botany items right now.

    EDIT: I was wrong about this one. Shows what I know!
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    Last edited by Talraen; 06-05-2018 at 10:00 PM.

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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You can't search for the gathering log entry from the crafting log. Ex open iron ingot recipe, right click iron ore and select "search gathering log" or something to that effect, would be a nice QoL add.
    This..soooo much. - Right now its Search recipie or something generic that will only pull crafting log results..NEVER gathering log results.

    If I wantted to search say Cobalt Ignot and figure out where the bloody hell Cobalt ore can be found - id like a gathering log result...not "no results found" :P

    So now i have to close out every damn window..and go to gathering log....and you get the picture.
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    Last edited by NephthysVasudan; 06-05-2018 at 01:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Wont happen.....it would make macro'ing crafting a total run away thing.

    As for searching for items...you just right click...and you get told where it is..even the tab.

    This is why you should craft near a retainer bell....makes it easy.

    Yes..its annoying...but what makes things easier...can be exploited.
    Quote Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    I don't understand what you mean by this.
    The technical answer is that when you do "search" the game queries the server and sends back a response from each retainer. It doesn't load the retainer into the game environment. That's also why when you search for an item that is also available as HQ it will look for both. The game client, for the purposes of crafting doesn't know if you have it, thus can not proceed, and can not summon the correct retainer since it may be in more than one and the game doesn't let you summon all the retainers at once.
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