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    U/U, Materia and compromise

    Believe it or not.. once again the community is split right down the middle on an issue...
    Surprise, right?

    There are several issues here though.

    1. NM's dropping gear as opposed to mats for gear

    2. Unique/untradeable gear vs crafted materia gear (single AND double slotted)

    3. Old content being made pointless by new, easy-to-make crafted gear and materia

    Here are some possible solutions:

    1. Unique Materia
    We know the Cobalt Cuirass is the big dog tank piece. What if there was an Adamantoise NM that dropped Adamant Materia that gave +50 def, +50 vit.
    But it would use up all materia slots, so you had to put it on a cuirass with no other materia on it. And the cuirass becomes the "Impenetrable Cobalt Cuirass"

    2. Unique Materia V2
    Materia that only fits 1 piece. Similar to upgrading gear...
    At 2.0, there would be 2 NMs (I know hopefully more than 2, but 2 that concern us for this suggestion).
    Some type of unnamed as of yet Fire Wyrm and Phoenix. Beating this Fire Wyrm gives you a special Materia that can ONLY be used on an Ifrit weapon. That has some CRAZY stats like Att +100, fire resistance +100
    And Phoenix drops the catalyst needed to attach said materia...
    I know Ifrit possibly wont be in game as of 2.0, but you get what I mean

    3. Melding like repairs
    So you've got your adamant materia. But it is Unique/untradeable. Make it so you can put the gear, catalyst and materia in your Bazaar. And since there is a 100% success rate, there is no real risk to doing so

    4. Bound gear
    A good alternative to unique/untradeable would be gear that is crafted from some big, hard-to-get NM drop is unique, but doesn't become untradeable until you actually equip or use it. Once you do that, it becomes "bound" to you. This would fit in good with the whole "Spiritbonding" and "Aether" lore of the game. I wanted this special gear to be bound to you upon equipping, but my buddy Darkstar likes to try on the gear he makes for people before he gives it to them and thinks it should be bound to you once you actually use it. Either way, the same idea remains

    What do you guys think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    I wanted this special gear to be bound to you upon equipping, but my buddy Darkstar likes to try on the gear he makes for people before he gives it to them and thinks it should be bound to you once you actually use it.
    i only like to do that when i actually get that piece double or triple melded for someone or some specific high level item hq so i can tease them and tell them thanks for the toss lol.

    basically my method would be more of the spiritbonding of gear to only begin once you use the gear and it droops below 100%. once that gear has been used that gear would then become untradeable. it just seems it would be easier to make lore to become part of the game for the dev team that way. the some specific gear can become attuned with the char wearing the gear as it is involved in usage while being worn. the gear would no loner accept being used by another char.

    my personal opinion is that i hate untradeable gear completely. it is one of the main reasons the markets have crashed. people get an item and then there's no reason for them to buy another piece of gear and once they advance past that piece of gear it just gets thrown away. people aren't willing to buy from the market because they feel the gear is overpriced because they can get better gear for free and people aren't willing to make gear to sell because it sells for less than the materials to make the gear costs.
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    I think SOPA was a bad idea too...


    OFT: Why people make these "compromise" threads puzzles me to begin with...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    I think SOPA was a bad idea too...


    OFT: Why people make these "compromise" threads puzzles me to begin with...
    Is compromise bad? When you have a community as divided as this one, compromise is inevitable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Is compromise bad? When you have a community as divided as this one, compromise is inevitable
    Yes.. because you have ANY say in what SE does with THEIR game whatsoever.

    Do you think your 'compromise' is going to cater to everyone? No; read the second post.

    Do you think the entire community reads the forums? No; only a small portion does.

    Do you think by reaching some 'compromise' that SE is going to say, "Ok guise the ENGLISH forums have reached a compromise let's put this in the game!"; No - they will do whatever they want to do and if they want your input they will ask (player poll).


    Lol... I can't go on anymore this is just funny, I feel like I'm being trolled every time I open a thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    Yes.. because you have ANY say in what SE does with THEIR game whatsoever.

    Do you think your 'compromise' is going to cater to everyone? No; read the second post.

    Do you think the entire community reads the forums? No; only a small portion does.

    Do you think by reaching some 'compromise' that SE is going to say, "Ok guise the ENGLISH forums have reached a compromise let's put this in the game!"; No - they will do whatever they want to do and if they want your input they will ask (player poll).


    Lol... I can't go on anymore this is just funny, I feel like I'm being trolled every time I open a thread.
    Awwww... someone is having a "vewy" bad day....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Awwww... someone is having a "vewy" bad day....
    I think you're mistaken. Did you check my signature? I'll give you a moment to do so now.

    These forums are a joke the stupidity contained in them rivals the special Olympics... actually, those guys are probably smarterester than the people here. Yup including me
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    And you are only serving to fuel your own opinion lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshToreth View Post
    And you are only serving to fuel your own opinion lol
    That's the game!

    Serve bot at your service sir, what does one require?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    That's the game!

    Serve bot at your service sir, what does one require?
    I gave a suggestion though... I didn't flame anyone.. I didn't say anything derogatory or inflammatory

    I am aware that there is slim to no chance any of the suggestions will be taken into consideration...
    But it's like fan fiction, it's just fun to put out there anyway... I wasn't trying to offend anyone with a suggested compromise. I really dont even see how anything I've said could be taken as such. If you don't agree with the nature of my OP, you could have just said so without an aside regarding things that confuse you

    Im happy... no one could possibly ruin that or make me angry. Its a forum, there is neither the need nor the stimuli needed to "rage"
    Don't worry... be happy
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