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  1. #1
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90

    Palace of the dead 101-200 needs matchmaking!!!!

    Last night I got to floor 181 and the party leader decided we should have a break and rightfully so. This RDM in our party who shall not be named just went offline and never came back and we waited an hour or more. He deliberately screwed us saying that he has been to floor 120 when he joined and that was a lie as his rankings indicated past 150 before. So basically he planned to do this all along probably after getting a few gold sacks just to bail. Now I have to start all OVER because palace of the dead is ridiculous and has no matchmaking for further floors. Who even thought this was a good idea? If someone chooses to be an arsehole then they deserve to be punished and not the entire party. 4-5 hours down the drain just because one idiot. Come on now... it's embarrassing that your system is so dumb.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    We would only end up with people complaining about randoms dragging them down in 101+ and then complaining some more because people are telling them "well make a preformed party then," and then complaining yet more because they're too stubborn to realize that the people saying "well make a preformed party then" are right.

    101+ were not meant to be matched party floors, and it's quite fine if they stay fixed-only.

    It sucks that you have to start over, but maybe make a party with more trustworthy and reliable people next time.
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    In lieu of opening it up entirely to matchmaking, it might not be a bad idea to allow you to pre-form a party with anyone as long as everyone has a save file with the same floor progress. It wouldn't be a "matched" party but it would allow you to bring a friend as a substitute if someone drops out.

    But keep the requirement that everyone has to maintain a no-wipes record to continue.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 06-04-2018 at 03:54 PM.
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    Kai Lee
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I just think it's dumb. 100+ is lock to solo players. At least make it allow 150 floors to solo.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kai_Lee View Post
    I just think it's dumb. 100+ is lock to solo players. At least make it allow 150 floors to solo.
    It is open to solo players. Infact there are achievment for actually clearing it solo.

    Its not open to auto-matching through the DF though - which should stay that way.
    I dont know if you've been to floor 200, but after a certain point this isnt really DF-content anymore. It requires people to pay attention (something thats to much to ask of a lot of people...), you need to have/safe the right pomanders for certain floors (so you need to spend floor 100-140 or so to stock up on those - if you go in via DF you always start with an empty inventory at the start of each set), you kinda need a healer and a tank (one of the strong/key points of PotD is that your class doesnt matter instead of the dungeon asking for the standard heal/tank/2dps combo).

    This content is also meant to be a challenge - and sadly "challenge" and "random DF-people" dont go to well together. Given how all your progress is lost at a wipe, I can only say "Please, keep it out of DF and spare me all the 'Some idiot walked on a trap on floor 127 and now all my progress is lost!!! Give it back to me!'-threads that will follow if it gets unlocked.
    PotD lets you enter with any number between 1 and 4 - not having it in DF literally doesnt lock anyone out of it.

    The only two changes I could get behind are:
    1) Let us start from floor 100
    2) The option to remove someone from your party in a situation like the OP described. The whole party (except the person whos getting removed) has to agree on that - kinda like a vote-kick. And yes, that can be abused to prevent someone from getting their clear, I know that. But right now people are able to screw other people over - may that be intentional or without any ill will (broken PC, different schedulde now, the kicked person being actually fine with being removed etc.) - so I'd say its still the lesser evil.
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    Almostward's Avatar
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    Baidar Torgud
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 80
    100+ is locked to solo players? No wonder I cant get past 100. I've ran it many times to only get blocked when I finish floor 100.

    Well that sucks
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Almostward View Post
    100+ is locked to solo players?
    No, it's available to
    1) A Fixed Party
    2) With zero wipes

    If you convert to a matched party, or your party wipes (or disconnects), you lose eligibility for 101+. The fixed party can be one to four members.
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