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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
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    Ultimate fights aren't tied to any of the stories, people wouldn't have to rush any content to start progressing it.

    The groups going for world first don't need the gear from the catch up patch, as they already have better gear from Sigmascape Savage. And as I said, this group of players is incredibly small.
    I didn't say to rush to do world first races...
    But to rush due to those races.

    People who won't, or can't, participate in those directly may still want to participate indirectly via streams and such.
    And the gap gives them time to get stuff done and prepare for those events.


    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    PvP content would not be self-sustaining in FFXIV because there is no open world PvP and I would like it to stay that way since that tends to bring out the worst in people. The instanced PvP is perfectly fine and can't break the rest of the game. It might not be the most exciting content, but it's not something you can just "okay I've done it, no need to do ever do it again".
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    I said like a pvp mode.
    Not like FFXIV's pvp.

    PvP is inherently self sustaining, simply due to the fact that you're playing against another person, and thus the experience is always different.

    It's content where the designer's effort gives continious content.


    It also doesn't have to be open world pvp for it to be self sustaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Yes, Ultimate is not tied to anything, but the point is those ppl asked for beign able to enjoy the rest of the content patch before having to do world prog and while this group of players are small they had contact with the dev team. Since ultimate so far has only been released 2 weeks after patch launch I'm safe to assume that their voice was heard
    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    I didn't say to rush to do world first races...
    But to rush due to those races.

    People who won't, or can't, participate in those directly may still want to participate indirectly via streams and such.
    And the gap gives them time to get stuff done and prepare for those events.
    And if the both of you actually read my initial post, you'd have known that it doesn't really change the player's choice much, since it's just a very small minority that would actually have to choose between doing casual content, or jumping into the world first race.

    You'd also know that I linked it to a better content spread, having HoH in 4.31, and Pagos in 4.35 (although I suppose Ultima could've still been in 4.31 along with HoH).

    You guys make it sound like having to choose between what to do first is some kind of inhumane thing to ask of the player base. News flash: casual content will still be there for the hardcore raiders to do, after they have had their 2 weeks of progression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    And if the both of you actually read my initial post, you'd have known that it doesn't really change the player's choice much, since it's just a very small minority that would actually have to choose between doing casual content, or jumping into the world first race.

    You'd also know that I linked it to a better content spread, having HoH in 4.31, and Pagos in 4.35 (although I suppose Ultima could've still been in 4.31 along with HoH).

    You guys make it sound like having to choose between what to do first is some kind of inhumane thing to ask of the player base. News flash: casual content will still be there for the hardcore raiders to do, after they have had their 2 weeks of progression.
    They want an MMO on rails with whack-a-mole mechanics.
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