Lack of content on patch release

[Mahrze]

As much as I understand that everyone has diff play styles, getting the content sprinkled around feels more and more like; "we want you to focus on this rn" vs having everything available at once would have everyone work oon whatever they want.

Could also be another way to improve stability after the hype of everyone doing all the different things at once, cuz server limitations.

[SendohJin]

Heaven forbid people actually have to choose what content they want to prioritize.

because it's not a choice.

the Ultimate crowd will directly jump into Ultimate for world first instead of learning/farming the new Ex Trial.

the current EX Trial drops a weapon, Eureka is going to let us upgrade our weapons. Even Heaven-On-High gives us weapons?

and if the new stage of Eureka is anything similar to the current one it is going to be great for Tomes, which means a lot less people will be doing Expert, which means a lot less people will be running Swallow's Compass.

it's not much of a choice when the varying pieces of content directly one ups each other in terms of rewards.

the Ex Trial will be completely dead besides the rare dog farming group once the new Eureka stage is released.

i do hope 4.35 is late June, early July and not late July though.

[Squintina]

Heaven forbid people actually have to choose what content they want to prioritize.

Choice also only works well when you think of individual people (and as Sendohjin pointed out, when content gives similar prizes, the choice becomes illusionary as people will go for what gives the best reward).

But when you think of a community. Well maybe I want to do Eureka, but my friends want to do HoH.
Maybe some elite raiders want to go straight for UwU, while others would have liked to farm the EX trial first.
Especially for uwu, it means that people who want who aren't trying ultimate but want to watch the world race (and it can be difficult to watch while trying to do your own stuff) had the chance to get their other goals done beforehand, increasing the ability to enjoy the spectacle.

By spacing things out, it gives people who play together something to focus on without having to worry about their individual preferences.

[Miyafuji]

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And where exactly did I say that patch 4.3 was worse than patch 3.1? Seriously, you point more accusations with no proof or actual discussion in an attempt to derail the thread, but sure try and take my posts out of context by quoting specific lines.
I've said it about 3 times now and I'll say it again because clearly you lack the function to comprehend and are stuck in your own little bubble: 4.3 is lacking content to do on release, which won't be the case months down the line when we get the more anticipated content.

And I said that if you are only talking about the delay on content I can agree that it's annoying even though I understand why it's done and that some ppl would have complained regardless.

The problem as Corbin has said you've said this is the lackluster patch to date and imho that is wrong you cannot whitewash what 3.1 was for the game. CorbinDallas said that ppl if you played during that time you wouldn't really say that there's no content or that it's the worst patch, yet ppl challenged him on this notion and btw I've enjoyed DIadem and Verminion for what they were, yet I know full well their problem and why they were a failure.

It's pretty clear to me that you and Corbin are just picking at straws at this point based on a single word, even though you say that you are agreeing to the exact thing I'm saying which shows that you aren't even reading the responses of myself and others. Again, no one said 3.1 was good or that 4.3 is worse than 3.1 and you are clearly missing my explanation to the point where this discussion is going in circles. I also agree with what you have said about Diadem and LoV.

I'll put it in bold so the both of you can see it: Yes, I am talking about the delay of content and no, this won't be the worst patch to date. I don't know how I can convey this any clearer to be honest.

Oh and btw you are kinda late with this complaint because it's since 2.2 that x.x5-x.x8 patch have started having extra content

The extra content wasn't the biggest part of the patch though which is my gripe.

[Squintina]

And where exactly did I say that patch 4.3 was worse than patch 3.1?

From the very first post:

For me this latest patch has been the most lacklustre patch to date

Well..technically you did say it. Maybe you weren't around then and you meant the most lackluster patch you've encountered, but I can see in that sentence why some people felt the need to defend this as not being the worst one to date.

[Miyafuji]

From the very first post:


Well..technically you did say it. Maybe you weren't around then and you meant the most lackluster patch you've encountered, but I can see in that sentence why some people felt the need to defend this as not being the worst one to date.

Oh boy, I'm just going to edit the main post because this is actually getting boring having the same argument come up which I literally addressed in the post you quoted.

Yes that woken mechanic really has taken me for a loop for the crazy possibilities we can achieve with that, hopefully the dev team realizes it.

This mechanic has given me high hopes for the future honestly, I really hope its brought over into other content such as eureka or as you said, in dungeons.

[MageBlack]

Choice also only works well when you think of individual people (and as Sendohjin pointed out, when content gives similar prizes, the choice becomes illusionary as people will go for what gives the best reward).

But when you think of a community. Well maybe I want to do Eureka, but my friends want to do HoH.
Maybe some elite raiders want to go straight for UwU, while others would have liked to farm the EX trial first.
Especially for uwu, it means that people who want who aren't trying ultimate but want to watch the world race (and it can be difficult to watch while trying to do your own stuff) had the chance to get their other goals done beforehand, increasing the ability to enjoy the spectacle.

By spacing things out, it gives people who play together something to focus on without having to worry about their individual preferences.

Oh no! having options is hard....

Kinda amusing how you comment its the illusion of choice then give the fictitious scenario where they WERE all released at once and try to bolster your argument by saying everyone chooses to do something different...

I get delaying the time consuming content a little bit from the story experience (even though the story isnt going anywhere and there are no world first races for story) but couldnt they have added the other three pieces of the patch all at the same time? The defending of this is just bizarre, and I'm a bloody white knight for this game... or at least I used to be.

[Remedi]

And where exactly did I say that patch 4.3 was worse than patch 3.1? Seriously, you point more accusations with no proof or actual discussion in an attempt to derail the thread, but sure try and take my posts out of context by quoting specific lines.
I've said it about 3 times now and I'll say it again because clearly you lack the function to comprehend and are stuck in your own little bubble: 4.3 is lacking content to do on release, which won't be the case months down the line when we get the more anticipated content.



It's pretty clear to me that you and Corbin are just picking at straws at this point based on a single word, even though you say that you are agreeing to the exact thing I'm saying which shows that you aren't even reading the responses of myself and others. Again, no one said 3.1 was good or that 4.3 is worse than 3.1 and you are clearly missing my explanation to the point where this discussion is going in circles. I also agree with what you have said about Diadem and LoV.

I'll put it in bold so the both of you can see it: Yes, I am talking about the delay of content and no, this won't be the worst patch to date. I don't know how I can convey this any clearer to be honest.



The extra content wasn't the biggest part of the patch though which is my gripe.

As squintina have told you that was the gripes of some and frankly I was told that 3.1 was better by somebody else in another thread, I already said that I don't like split of content, the only words I've used for it were to explain why it's happening and that there are some ppl that wanted to have this split coming, but I largely don't agree with them because as ppl have pointed out I'd rather have to choose what to do than to be guided.
However I find that this kind of topics usually come from only one point of wiew, as some have pointed out they still have much to do because of limited time of playing as such I find that their wiew is not wrong either, this is why I said earlier in the thread that both wiews are correct

unrelated: can we stop with demonizing Ultimate pls? First of all it's about 10% of the ppl having access to it and not the 1% that is perhaps the clear rate, but even there's nothing stopping ppl in partecipating in savage or ultimate. Ppl choose not to which is miles different

[Squintina]

Oh boy, I'm just going to edit the main post because this is actually getting boring having the same argument come up which I literally addressed in the post you quoted.

Probably a good idea.

Personally I don't care about that, it seems very semantics to the rest of the thread's points - I just wanted you to know where it was coming from.

[Miyafuji]

I already said that I don't like split of content, the only words I've used for it were to explain why it's happening and that there are some ppl that wanted to have this split coming, but I largely don't agree with them because as ppl have pointed out I'd rather have to choose what to do than to be guided.
However I find that this kind of topics usually come from only one point of wiew, as some have pointed out they still have much to do because of limited time of playing as such I find that their wiew is not wrong either, this is why I said earlier in the thread that both wiews are correct

unrelated: can we stop with demonizing Ultimate pls? First of all it's about 10% of the ppl having access to it and not the 1% that is perhaps the clear rate, but even there's nothing stopping ppl in partecipating in savage or ultimate. Ppl choose not to which is miles different

I agree that both views are correct and that some people dislike having the freedom of choice of what they should do per patch and that there are others who haven't yet caught up. But I disagree with the punishment of players who want to pick what they want to do first and decide for themselves as to what they want to do.
I personally like being able to have a selection of things to do which helps provide the mmo feel of "what shall I do today?" not "what am I forced to do today?"

I also agree with you about ultimate, its high end content that not many people may partake in directly sure, but it's still interesting to watch the progression and the mechanics of the fight.

Probably a good idea.

Personally I don't care about that, it seems very semantics to the rest of the thread's points - I just wanted you to know where it was coming from.

I mean I would have thought it was pretty clear from the initial post and the title of the thread but I guess people misinterpret.