Lack of content on patch release

[Rhus]

Feel a bit against the grain here but I thought there was more than enough. I only just got around to doing the MSQ yesterday and still am only on "Under the Moonlight" having completed the trial. I'm loving the namazu and though people are claiming it's only 10 minutes, I spend 10 minutes alone flying around Azim on my Mikoshi xD
The new Raid was super fun and I've had a great time learning the mechanics and trying to get better at it. It's also had me running Rabanastre more often now for the upgrade coins so I've spent a fair bit of time doing that. I'm levelling Dragoon up to 60 so I've got something to level once HoH comes out (yes it wasn't in 4.3 but it is in 4.3x and it's pending arrivial has given me a reason) The challenge Log addition to Eureka has made levelling there a lot quicker for someone who isn't just hitching a ride on the train.
I'm loving the addition of Swallows Compass to Expert Roulette and the design of the dungeon was great. The music in 4.3 overall has been fantastic from Swallows Compass, to namazu to the the mikoshi theme.
I've taken my time and enjoyed everything it has to offer and can benefit from a lot of the additions ad I know some of my friends have also loved this patch so far and been very complimentary about it and we still have Eureka & HoH to look forward to^^

[Maero]

I think had they released the Deep Dungeon this patch would have been so much better and lasted longer for players content wise.
1 single dungeon per is nothing overly exciting even if Swallows Compass is an enjoyable dungeon.
The Beast Tribe i rather enjoy but people are correct in that it is only 10 or so minutes a day, i would have enjoyed if it was longer tbh :/

[Anarnee]

Yeah I agree, I've felt that I don't have much to do this patch.

If Ridorana didn't have greed only and the other 24 mans too, I would do them more often, but as it is, I don't do Ridorana more than once a week per character, and I really don't enjoy the other 24 mans either. I use to run the 24 mans for fun, but the only reward I get is usually tomes, and that's just not enough. I'd rather go sit in Eureka if Imma grind tomes only.

When you're capping multiple characters and still feel like there isn't a lot to do... >>; ehhh

[Remedi]

If you want to talk about 4.3 by deliberating removing a part of the patch cycle to prove a point I'm afraid you are having a disonest conversation.
I already spoken my mind about staggered content about how I don't like it, how companies use it as a way to combat content drought and about my belief that ppl would still be complaining about lack of content because most ppl use their own opinion about what IS content, well I don't agree with that wiew, I don't like pvp, I don't partecipate in it but I still consider it game content.

The whole 4.3 vs 3.1 diabtribe was born because there are ppl that consider 4.3 worse than 3.1 while it's not true, you say that after the weekly reset things you have nothing else to do? There was nothing on reset week on 3.1 at all after 5 months we deserved much better, there's no patch in the game that comes even closer to that moment in the game and hopefully will never happen again

[Miyafuji]

If you want to talk about 4.3 by deliberating removing a part of the patch cycle to prove a point I'm afraid you are having a disonest conversation.

You're completely missing the topic of this thread. This thread is about the content we've been provided on release of a major patch, and the fact that we are receiving the actual bulk of the content not on the day of the patch but months down the line. Eureka being delayed I completely understand but why delay Heaven on High when many people were excited for it for patch 4.3 especially with the showcasing of Heaven on High along with all the details that was announced just before the patch too.

I also don't think people are saying that 4.3 isn't going to be bad once its content has been released, I personally can't wait to grind Heaven on High and the new Eureka once it eventually comes out. The fact is that this patch is incredibly staggered and so drawn out yet some people defend this.

The whole 4.3 vs 3.1 diabtribe was born because there are ppl that consider 4.3 worse than 3.1 while it's not true.

Literally no one said this in this thread.

Unfortunately the decided to release it all in a trickle over the next 3 months. God damnit SE... The excuse I recall hearing was "we dont want to overload the players, if they have too many things to do they wont be able to get to all the content." Please OVERLOAD US! I would rather sit down to FFXIV and wonder, "where do i start?" not "well, i did my dailies out of obligation, now what?" Its getting frustrating paying for a sub only to get a casual week at most out of new content before everything feels like a chore. Its not that they couldnt release it all at the same time, its an intentional tricking of content to give the illusion of content injection. These X.X1 X.X5 and X.X6 patches should be for QOL and hotfixes not content injections.

I honestly couldn't agree more. I miss how the X.Xx patches would include new glamour options, new housing items, emotes, some job adjustments and additional things to do. Instead, the mogstation seems to be where most of these resources have gone.

[CorbinDallas]

Literally no one said this in this thread.

For me this latest patch has been the most lacklustre patch to date

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[Miyafuji]

:thinking:

And where exactly did I say that patch 4.3 was worse than patch 3.1? Seriously, you point more accusations with no proof or actual discussion in an attempt to derail the thread, but sure try and take my posts out of context by quoting specific lines.
I've said it about 3 times now and I'll say it again because clearly you lack the function to comprehend and are stuck in your own little bubble: 4.3 is lacking content to do on release, which won't be the case months down the line when we get the more anticipated content.

And I said that if you are only talking about the delay on content I can agree that it's annoying even though I understand why it's done and that some ppl would have complained regardless.

The problem as Corbin has said you've said this is the lackluster patch to date and imho that is wrong you cannot whitewash what 3.1 was for the game. CorbinDallas said that ppl if you played during that time you wouldn't really say that there's no content or that it's the worst patch, yet ppl challenged him on this notion and btw I've enjoyed DIadem and Verminion for what they were, yet I know full well their problem and why they were a failure.

It's pretty clear to me that you and Corbin are just picking at straws at this point based on a single word, even though you say that you are agreeing to the exact thing I'm saying which shows that you aren't even reading the responses of myself and others. Again, no one said 3.1 was good or that 4.3 is worse than 3.1 and you are clearly missing my explanation to the point where this discussion is going in circles. I also agree with what you have said about Diadem and LoV.

I'll put it in bold so the both of you can see it: Yes, I am talking about the delay of content and no, this won't be the worst patch to date. I don't know how I can convey this any clearer to be honest.

Oh and btw you are kinda late with this complaint because it's since 2.2 that x.x5-x.x8 patch have started having extra content

The extra content wasn't the biggest part of the patch though which is my gripe.

[Squintina]

And where exactly did I say that patch 4.3 was worse than patch 3.1?

From the very first post:

For me this latest patch has been the most lacklustre patch to date

Well..technically you did say it. Maybe you weren't around then and you meant the most lackluster patch you've encountered, but I can see in that sentence why some people felt the need to defend this as not being the worst one to date.

[Remedi]

And where exactly did I say that patch 4.3 was worse than patch 3.1? Seriously, you point more accusations with no proof or actual discussion in an attempt to derail the thread, but sure try and take my posts out of context by quoting specific lines.
I've said it about 3 times now and I'll say it again because clearly you lack the function to comprehend and are stuck in your own little bubble: 4.3 is lacking content to do on release, which won't be the case months down the line when we get the more anticipated content.



It's pretty clear to me that you and Corbin are just picking at straws at this point based on a single word, even though you say that you are agreeing to the exact thing I'm saying which shows that you aren't even reading the responses of myself and others. Again, no one said 3.1 was good or that 4.3 is worse than 3.1 and you are clearly missing my explanation to the point where this discussion is going in circles. I also agree with what you have said about Diadem and LoV.

I'll put it in bold so the both of you can see it: Yes, I am talking about the delay of content and no, this won't be the worst patch to date. I don't know how I can convey this any clearer to be honest.



The extra content wasn't the biggest part of the patch though which is my gripe.

As squintina have told you that was the gripes of some and frankly I was told that 3.1 was better by somebody else in another thread, I already said that I don't like split of content, the only words I've used for it were to explain why it's happening and that there are some ppl that wanted to have this split coming, but I largely don't agree with them because as ppl have pointed out I'd rather have to choose what to do than to be guided.
However I find that this kind of topics usually come from only one point of wiew, as some have pointed out they still have much to do because of limited time of playing as such I find that their wiew is not wrong either, this is why I said earlier in the thread that both wiews are correct

unrelated: can we stop with demonizing Ultimate pls? First of all it's about 10% of the ppl having access to it and not the 1% that is perhaps the clear rate, but even there's nothing stopping ppl in partecipating in savage or ultimate. Ppl choose not to which is miles different

[Remedi]

You're completely missing the topic of this thread. This thread is about the content we've been provided on release of a major patch, and the fact that we are receiving the actual bulk of the content not on the day of the patch but months down the line. Eureka being delayed I completely understand but why delay Heaven on High when many people were excited for it for patch 4.3 especially with the showcasing of Heaven on High along with all the details that was announced just before the patch too.

I also don't think people are saying that 4.3 isn't going to be bad once its content has been released, I personally can't wait to grind Heaven on High and the new Eureka once it eventually comes out. The fact is that this patch is incredibly staggered and so drawn out yet some people defend this.



Literally no one said this in this thread.

And I said that if you are only talking about the delay on content I can agree that it's annoying even though I understand why it's done and that some ppl would have complained regardless.

The problem as Corbin has said you've said this is the lackluster patch to date and imho that is wrong you cannot whitewash what 3.1 was for the game. CorbinDallas said that ppl if you played during that time you wouldn't really say that there's no content or that it's the worst patch, yet ppl challenged him on this notion and btw I've enjoyed DIadem and Verminion for what they were, yet I know full well their problem and why they were a failure.
Also frankly when ppl use content to speak to some the usual response is that X is not content because everyone simply uses the content they want to run, which honestly annoy me. WHy not just saying this patch has not enough content I like eh? I guess because it wouldn't cause enough drama

Oh and btw you are kinda late with this complaint because it's since 2.2 that x.x5-x.x8 patch have started having extra content (2.25 beign pvp related. 2.28 novus, 2.35 the whole ixali beast tribes) So no It never was about only glamour, they always had something delayed, but ofc beast tribes is not content so nobody cared

@Alleo Wow does it and it's the only other MMO with a sub as such I don't believe this practice will go anywhere. I agree that their reasoning for doing it is trash, but I'm afraid it's not going away
Also consider that some players would prefer a staggered release of savage too, which I believe it's also the reason why ultimate gets released 2 weeks later and I think this message was given to yoshida. Frankly I don't agree with any of this and the reasoning behind it, but since as I said this is going from 2.2 I don't believe it'll change