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    That's just because of your playstyle.
    I'm not saying you're playing it "right" or "wrong", just that your playstyle doesn't fit the content release.

    Then you have people like me: who still haven't finished it all.
    First day. I was marketboarding to make gil, doing non-new content to earn GC to be able to capitalize on the new raziqsap market. That's literally all I did.

    Second day. I was starting the various quests, just to get to instance unlocks. Then more marketboarding. And the Doman Enclave. I did some older content because I also still care about my challenge log and wondrous tails, but mostly I spent the night joining hunt trains. So much activity, so many centurio seals to get.

    The next night, I really wanted to try out the new command missions, because I'm a level-over-time person who likes variety. AV and Sohm Al were really fun, and I joined some more hunts afterwards.

    I also decided to do some Hildibrand because I was way behind and I want to be able to enjoy the new Hildibrand stuff when it comes out, so that was another night.

    Now afterwards I finally started MSQ, which I spent a night on, taking the time to read through and just enjoy it.

    Then I started Namazu. I also realized I had some crafters at 50, so I started Moogle at the same time. The Namazu quest text is HILARIOUS, so I actually take the time to read it. More hunts to fill in the night. I did some leves as well, because I'm an achievement hunter and I can't let those cap. ever.

    I still haven't even done Ridorana, new EX trial, the new PVP daily challenge (which I do want to do), and I'll probably be doing some chocobo races and verminion before the make it rain event to get some practice in. I'll also be going back to try to finish my ARR sightseeing log probably in the next month (and ARR sightseeing logs have specific times of the day to do them in), so those DF chocobo races will be helpful to wait in place - so that's a QOL I'm really looking forward to.

    And then there are people I know who spent a LOT of time in the new dungeon to get the gear - not for the ilvl, let's face it there's better ways to gear up, but for glamour!

    It's all about how quickly you want to get through and how much of the new content you want to do, and also how much older content you mix it in with. If you're not interested in hunts, command missions, pvp, scouring the marketboard, catching up on older content you might not have done yet while spacing out new content, etc... And you just focus on doing MSQ and the new instances once..Then yeah, you won't have much to do.

    But as a person who's played other MMO's, I'm not sure what you're expecting, this is more than I used to get in other games.
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    Last edited by Squintina; 06-04-2018 at 01:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    And then there are people I know who spent a LOT of time in the new dungeon to get the gear - not for the ilvl, let's face it there's better ways to gear up, but for glamour!
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    I would add that dungeon gear this time is useful since beign 345 soime of those pieces are BIS for UCOB, for those that care ofc, but it's something that is a bit new in the game overall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    That's just because of your playstyle.
    I'm not saying you're playing it "right" or "wrong", just that your playstyle doesn't fit the content release.
    This wouldn't be an issue if they released Heaven on High with 4.3 in lieu of delaying it a month because "people would have too much to do!!!!"

    Can we let people decide that instead of telling them? Otherwise it looks more like a thinly veiled attempt to keep people subbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    This wouldn't be an issue if they released Heaven on High with 4.3 in lieu of delaying it a month because "people would have too much to do!!!!"

    Can we let people decide that instead of telling them? Otherwise it looks more like a thinly veiled attempt to keep people subbed.
    If you think so, that's certainly your opinion.
    However, I think those players would only have had maybe 1-2 days of extra game time added from this because they would do it once, then immediately want the next piece of content.

    And this tuesday there is the new ultimate, which will take a while to beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
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    couldn't agree more (the point you're making)

    I spent probably the first 3 days doing MB crafting new gear

    Honestly the only thing I would really like them to add is some sort of mythic dungeon ala WoW.
    There are plenty of dungeons and many of them could be quite a challenge if they were to increase damage done by ennemies.
    Doing the same AoE fest feast isn't super exciting. Which is a bummer because FF14 are quite lovely

    I made quite a long post long ago, it received moderate feedback, mostly 'sounds nice but player are too casual'
    I wanted some sort of weekly dungeon with enhanced difficulty (difficulty around new primal), then there would be extra objectives progressively making the dungeon hard up to early savage level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
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    On this topic, the awoken mechanic from ultimate might come in handy in making hard modes of dungeon fight as an achievement system.
    Think of it like Ulduar hard-modes, doing the fights in a certain way will make the boss go berserk and killing it this way will give you an achievement of sort.
    Imagine the ZU fight in pharos, killing all the eggs heals him to full and makes him much more dangerous, mechanics now have different properties and such.

    Because they have shown they are capable of doing this kind of things with ultimate I do think they should work into applying it to other places
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    If you play other online games before coming to FFXIV you might have a different view.

    Trust me, there is a reason this game is popular right now... not Fortnite popular, but it scratches that online RPG itch that's been sorely lacking. Notice they didn't release everything all at once, I mean we still have Heaven on High and new Eureka in the coming weeks. There's also the new Ultimate raid if you're into that, but it's make for a tiny fraction of hardcores.

    Maybe if this game were a full time job to you I can get where you're coming from, but most folk probably have a few hours per week to invest and it works for them.
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    Don't you like waiting an additional 2 months for content in an entirely different slot than the rest? Going by the last feast length, 4.35 is the end of July.
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    I think it's important to note that when people say "there's nothing to do!" they oftentimes mean "I've done all the things I like to do most/play the game for and want more!". It's still a valid complaint but it's not a very realistic one. SE will never be able to make enough content to give people at end-game "something to do" all the time. It's simply impossible. Also, relatively few players actually get to the point like me and some other posters here where all combat jobs are max level, all the previous content is well-worn, and the only stuff left to do are things that are not the primary reason that we play the game- whether that be crafting, achievement hunting, PvP, etc. It's hard to see over time but there really is a mountain of things to do already. Newcomers have a daunting task ahead of them if they want to get to it all - especially with how difficult it is to even get a party for the old stuff!

    That said, I don't like how all the content is being stretched thin over the course of the patch. If there are no technical limitations that prevent it, please release it all at once. I did all the new stuff in a few hours and while I love Ridorana and the Namauzu quests they aren't enough to keep me feeling occupied and content. I'd really rather see everything drop at once- HoH looks awesome and I have this strange hope that somehow Eureka Pagos will be tolerable after all the feedback from Anemos. Like Ghastly said I'd rather take a break towards the end of the cycle rather than a month in.
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    Simple fact that we used to get a lot more content with every patch. We're getting less and less with every patch. You can see this with the patch trailers as their times have been significantly cut and are not as well edited as the ones from 2.x and so. I'm still mad that we only got one hairstyle this patch. There's no reason we couldn't have gotten 2 hairstyles plus the one for the Make It Rain event. SE is making more money than they have ever been making on FFXIV due to the subscriptions and the Mog House and every other thing they nickle and dime us for. It's funny to see people try to deny this fact or people celebrate the idea that we might not even get a new expansion next year, but continued 4.X patches because it somehow makes SB worth the money.
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