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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Let's not oversell what Blizzard has on offer, ok?
    That isn't overselling WoW nor did I imply it's perfect. They simply do repetition better hence why people keep asking for Mythic+ styled dungeons here. Obviously, improvements can be made but at least we'd have dungeons that engaged better than "pull trash that barely does damage and aoe them all down."

    And if you aren't interested in primarily battle content, WoW probably isn't the game for you. I don't recall it advertising itself otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    If you think so, that's certainly your opinion.
    However, I think those players would only have had maybe 1-2 days of extra game time added from this because they would do it once, then immediately want the next piece of content.

    And this tuesday there is the new ultimate, which will take a while to beat.
    Eureka says otherwise. Sure, people voiced displeasure over it to an extent, but it remains active even now.

    And Ultimate is only content for the bleeding edge. Considering less than 10% of the playerbase have killed God Kefka, significantly less can or will challenge Ultimate. I mean, I'm set since I'll be doing just that, and I craft. But I can't begrudge people being a little annoyed over HoH's delay.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 06-04-2018 at 04:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    That isn't overselling WoW nor did I imply it's perfect.
    You stated it lasts longer because it's largely combat focused.

    That's overselling it for one simple reason - if you got tokens and such the way we do, that combat content wouldn't last nearly as long as it does. RNG on stats on gear that drops, mixed with RNG influencing the ilvl of said gear, is what keeps it from being "finished until the next patch" as quickly.

    Also, I said nothing about those not primarily having an interest in battle content having nothing to do, but rather that if you're not interested in two specific forms of battle content (mythic dungeons and raiding) that you get little in the way of content - less even than we do.
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    I've barely managed to touch the content, due to loot in 24-mans being terrible.
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    Unfortunately, Yoshida got it in his head they were releasing too much and delayed Heaven on High. The devs have a real bad habit of assuming people play the game differently than we actually do. Sure, there are plenty of people still lagging behind on story content, but don't punish the ones who have remained caught up and want something to do in FFXIV. What they should do is release Heaven on High with Ultimate, thus giving both hardcore raiders and more casual players something.

    Personally, I really dislike this new staggered release approach they've taken. It just highlights how lacking some patches feel.
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    Pretty much even with the new ways of "Gearing up" pls stop joking, until sigmascape savage loot restriction is removed can't actually enjoy getting gear for other classes. Still shocks me how they restrict one of the things that make this popular being able to have multiple jobs. Would love to be able to gear up brd/mch and mnk/sam to play those but thanks to please play our content longer tropes can only gear up one role near max ilvl.
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    I think it's not just his head doing this but seeing how even WOW is doing it to amazing results.
    I Mean no patch in legion or even release content on legion was already in the game at launch and it seems to me that more games are going for this staggered release approach.
    Before we had difficulty and gring as a way to make patches feel plumpy, now the gaming world has changed and production can't meet demands, as such they've started with staggered release, which also makes ppl sub for more,.

    Althpugh I could counter that argument with the point that doing it for a longer period could lead to players subbing only for late month in the patch if they really care for their moneys.

    For now we are not yet in what I would call danger zone, but it could creep into the story quests (and we already have the last patch before expansion using this).

    Look to how antorus and nighthold were staggered in their release then watch how terrible was the staggered release on broken front in legion, especially that quest asking you to farm a certain quantity of nether shards or whatever which then the quest giver revealed to you that he actually needed only one, imagine now that wine fetch quest as the ONLY new content coming during a week.
    This is what I fear might happen eventually
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    Last edited by Remedi; 06-04-2018 at 12:53 AM.

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    Sometimes it feels like we get less and less every expansion. However, FFXIV (even with these patches) tend to provide more than other MMOs. While taking a break from FFXIV, I had tried other MMOs and they were really... lacking. I always come back to FFXIV for more food. It's not always sufficient, but it's better than a lot of what's out there. (Imo, at least.) So, I totally feel you on the complaint, but there are worse out there.
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    The fact that we always see the same kind of content being released, giving the long-time players a sens of déjà-vu from patch to patch, and that they are now stretching the patch to a ridiculous extent can only make the players feel weary about it.

    Sure, there is still content added, but it only last for a couple of minute each weeks if your character is up to date. Right now, the only things keeping me in game is because I want to craft the crafting and gatherer gear. And it would already be done if one of the most important component required wasn't locked behind the namazu quest tribe.


    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    but there are worse out there.
    I don't really want to take this as an excuse for how stale the game is feeling right now. If anything, it's only making me lose faith in the MMORPG genre.
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    i think what they doing is great spreading content on the 3 months cycle
    its better than throwing it all at once , which what was a problem before , imo
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