So, the old form of PVP (shatter) has widely received some displeased engagement and scowls from the community. even when they applied the EXP buffs to it ppl only took it for the offered rewards and not the engagement of the actual way it was intended. So i propose this. What if we took carteneau. removed the old PVP kept the new one they just made and the feast and remade the old shatter style into a ACTUAl carteneau we can visit in the world map. But and this is where it gets spicy. add PVE,PVP, and special fates and nodes in the area. Think about it maelstroms and adders and flames from different Fc's trying to be the best at taking down a fate you have to strategically work together and against other teams to reap the rewards and if yu added things like timed nodes in the PVP environment it gives crafters and gatherers a reason to work alongside their battle hardcore fighting type guildmates and a common goal. thoughts?