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    Aivi_lo's Avatar
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    Aivi Kupo
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    Lighthouse bosses

    Is it my imagination or do these take waaaayyy longer to beat than any previous raid bosses?
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    Is it my imagination or do these take waaaayyy longer to beat than any previous raid bosses?
    And then when 5.1 comes out "These bosses are such a pushover, I can't believe people were whining about this in 4.1 and 4.3"

    They have to anticipate gear creep for this patch level. It's also no fun if you can just faceroll over content in a minute. In the Crystal Tower series of raids, often you don't even see the entire set of mechanics, bosses are killed too fast.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Famfrit and Belius can take around 8 minutes to beat, while the last two heavily depend on how often people die.

    If everyone gets 4/4 on the Maths Pop Quiz and don't die (ever), then that's 24 people with a DPS buff. For the final boss... people just gotta not die.
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Famfrit and Belius can take around 8 minutes to beat, while the last two heavily depend on how often people die.

    If everyone gets 4/4 on the Maths Pop Quiz and don't die (ever), then that's 24 people with a DPS buff. For the final boss... people just gotta not die.
    Pretty much this. Math Blaster can take anywhere from 6-8 minutes to beat at the best of times, to well over twenty minutes at it's worst. It all depends on if people are paying attention, getting the DPS buff, and frankly not dying.
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 8
    When Rab first came out, it took like... two hours to finish (I might be exaggerating... I hope I am xD), but now it's a breeze. I think when people get more and more familiar with Rid like they did with Rab and other raids, it'll probably go by a lot faster. Like, with what Enla says: getting DPS buff, not dying as much, et cetera, may drastically cut the time it takes to finish Rid.
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Eh, I think they are slower because the bosses force a lot more downtime through movement and invulnerability phases. Construct 7 in particular. Casters can't DPS him with dispose going, melee can't when math is up, he stuns and transports people in his add phase, and he spends a lot of time offscreen with rushes.
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    It's because it's too easy to raise people indefinitely once you survive the initial Raid Buster. People dying left and right makes the fights drag on and on... and on... and on. But the bosses don't have an enrage nor do they really have a way to easily wipe out the entire raid at once. Having easy access to Healing LB3 makes it worse.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Odin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Casters can't DPS him with dispose going, melee can't when math is up
    All casters, with the exception of RDM, have instant cast GCDs always available (and even RDM can get GCDs if their manas are good, they have swiftcast etc.). It's not going by the rotation but it's better than 0 dps. Math isn't a big loss for a melee, because you know, you don't need to stand in the circle the entire castbar.
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    Ein Vaer
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    It's people dying causing this and lower ilvl. Once you get a decent group they don't take much longer than the usual.

    Rabanastre took forever when it first come out due to the same thing, now most of the bosses melt.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Eh, I think they are slower because the bosses force a lot more downtime through movement and invulnerability phases. Construct 7 in particular. Casters can't DPS him with dispose going, melee can't when math is up, he stuns and transports people in his add phase, and he spends a lot of time offscreen with rushes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    All casters, with the exception of RDM, have instant cast GCDs always available (and even RDM can get GCDs if their manas are good, they have swiftcast etc.). It's not going by the rotation but it's better than 0 dps. Math isn't a big loss for a melee, because you know, you don't need to stand in the circle the entire castbar.
    Even superpowered Dispose is slow enough that a RDM can stop to cast if not caught unaware by the mechanic.
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