[Suggestion] Make "remove from friends list" 2-way

[KisaiTenshi]

Hate to point it out, but a.) that comment is not constructive in the slightest and completely uncalled for. You should not generalise an entire group of people based on two things you've seen. I would say this is stirring up more drama than my own comment. b.) 4k DPS thread is irrelevant to this one (personally not following it, don't care about it), c.) my own comment wasn't meant to be dramatic as I have no issues with the people I removed from my list. I just wasn't fond of the fact they could still moogle mail me when I can't moogle mail them. d.) I hail from Jenova, my friend.

Please don't blow things out of context and make assumptions. Thanks.

Ahem. Virtually every drama-generating post on the forum has been created by someone, often the same person, on Cactaur, and the same three or so people who also play on Cactaur fuel those threads by harassing everyone who comes to those threads. So no, it's not a generalization, they are literately disrupting the entire English forum over petty raider nonsense. So your thread was ill timed because it was posted just three minutes before some drama exploded (that thread is now 26 pages.)

Anyway, as I said on the other half of my comment. The game internally tracks id's and the ids do not change even after the server reboots or is patched, because the lodestone id's do not change. Removing someone from the friendslist, mutually friend removal should only be done if the removal is done with a harassment report, because that is the only justification for it. Other people just clean up their friends list because people haven't logged in quite a while and/or know they quit, but wouldn't mind seeing them again.

Like seriously, if SE wants to improve the friends list at all, put a "archived" tab into the friend list, and anyone who hasn't logged in in 30 days gets moved there automatically. Likewise if someone has unsubscribed, move them there automatically. Then once players are moved to the archive page, it's the same as not being on the friend list, and the game doesn't ping it except when you look at the archived list, but you can add them back to the active friend list at any time.

It's not what you're asking for, but would remove some awkward situations where people were removed due to clean up, not drama, but people will always think they did something to get deleted. When I played a different game, I had to clean up friendslists daily by the dozens because popularity comes at a price. Who do you delete? Those people you delete will think you're being a jerk to them (even if they haven't logged in months), those people who you don't add, think you're being stuck-up, etc.

[KaivaC]

Ahem. Virtually every drama-generating post on the forum has been created by someone, often the same person, on Cactaur, and the same three or so people who also play on Cactaur fuel those threads by harassing everyone who comes to those threads. So no, it's not a generalization, they are literately disrupting the entire English forum over petty raider nonsense. So your thread was ill timed because it was posted just three minutes before some drama exploded (that thread is now 26 pages.)

You know what, might as well go on ahead and respond to this as well before I log off. This is one of the most ignorant things in a long line of ignorant things to ever be typed by your fingers. Most drama comes from Cactuar? And then you cited my thread, which was created in a manner in which I said the wrong things. News flash: for the longest time, I was on Siren. It has nothing to do with a particular server – you just tend to come off on the forums as a particularly unlikable individual.

It certainly wouldn't be fair if folks started saying that Excalibur produced the biggest snowflakes in existence, now would it? Not that I'm calling you the biggest snowflake around, I mean, that would just be disrespectful, yes? So quit saying flat out ignorant statements that have nothing to do with a server. And harassment? Kisai, nobody cares enough to even think about harassing you – you get called out for the flat out ignorance that litters 90% of your posts. Unless of course, being challenged repeatedly for incorrect statements is your definition of harassment. In which case, I have to ask: if you truly felt harassed, why do you keep throwing yourself head-first into traffic to invite it? Curious.

Your bias against Cactuar is starting to show, and bias is a very, very ugly thing.

You may respond, but you aren’t worth the effort of a reply. That is, assuming that you don't spam that report button because you don't like debates or counter-arguments...or in your language: "harassment", with emphasis on quotation.

[Redname]

You know what, might as well go on ahead and respond to this as well before I log off. This is one of the most ignorant things in a long line of ignorant things to ever be typed by your fingers. Most drama comes from Cactuar? And then you cited my thread, which was created in a manner in which I said the wrong things. News flash: for the longest time, I was on Siren. It has nothing to do with a particular server – quit saying flat out ignorant statements that have nothing to do with a server. No, nobody even harasses you – you get called out for the flat out ignorance that litters 90% of your posts. Your bias against Cactuar is starting to show, and bias is a very, very ugly thing.

You may respond, but you aren’t worth the effort of a reply.

I dont even know you but i think you maybe want to check your tone here. The arrogance and superiority this text transmit can be kinda offensive.
You are calling her ignorant like its a flagrant sin. If a person is ignorant, then take the time to educate them, and if you dont want then dont complain. I think that you wanted to call her is stupid or obnoxious.
And talking about bias like every person here havent bias about some subject. A very ugly thing. Well, i advice you to check yours before talking about others. Anyway what you are doing with this attitude is making her bias worse and maybe make people question if she is really wrong about it.

With the topic. This is something that should have been implemented long time ago. I never suffered harrasment but like some people said here it can be kinda scary. I dont know if the devs read general discussion but this would be a good sugerence to implement.

[alimdia]

To be fair people do try to educate her, as you can see in her post history, that's the exact reason why she's trying to start drama badmouthing people who aren't even present in this thread and have nothing to do with this thread.

On topic: In case the current code doesn't allow deletions triggered server side, a good alternative would be to check if characters have each other added before allowing people to send a mog mail, so far it seems like the main issue is mog mail.

[KisaiTenshi]

To be fair people do try to educate her, as you can see in her post history, that's the exact reason why she's trying to start drama badmouthing people who aren't even present in this thread and have nothing to do with this thread.

I'm not the one starting drama. I'm not the one who created no less than 16 threads to start drama with raiders since March starting with "The general player base needs to improve", they either revel in starting drama, or they fell on their sword and decided deleting their character was the the only way to get out of whatever disaster they started.

So you would completely understand when it seemed like the OP of this thread was talking about that person when they created this thread three minutes before the other person did.

[MOZZYSTAR]

Ahem. Virtually every drama-generating post on the forum has been created by someone, often the same person, on Cactaur//I'm not the one starting drama. I'm not the one who created no less than 16 threads to start drama...

I think you can take your prejudice and overall inappropriate comments, and kindly leave.

If you're simply going to trash-talk people in this thread and go on about things that have no relevance to this topic (rather than contribute to it constructively), you have no business being here. I'm not going to give you the time of day henceforth. I hope others will consider the same as this is simply attention-seeking. Next time you want to accuse others of being dramatic, take a good look at your own actions. Thanks. ♪

[Tridus]

/sign

Since being added to a friend list requires consent, revoking that consent should remove you from the list.

Now then...

Ahem. Virtually every drama-generating post on the forum has been created by someone, often the same person, on Cactaur, and the same three or so people who also play on Cactaur fuel those threads by harassing everyone who comes to those threads. So no, it's not a generalization, they are literately disrupting the entire English forum over petty raider nonsense. So your thread was ill timed because it was posted just three minutes before some drama exploded (that thread is now 26 pages.)

It's convenient how you ignore all the drama created by you showing up in perfectly harmless threads and firing off incendiary posts, then acting as if it's someone elses fault when you get called on it. Like this thread, where there was no drama whatsoever until you created it. Or the numerous ones where you show up in a perfectly calm thread and start ranting and raving about parsers.

You have a bright future ahead of you as a politician, where every thing you do is really the fault of the mean old Cactuar elites in their secret club house trying to put the common poster down with their parsers and their "fix lilies" suggestions.