Cannot Compute: a construct 7 thread

[Kanitezz]

I don't get how failing THIS mechanic out of the whole game can make you so embarrassed. You get ridiculed for standing in AOEs, messing up your rotation, doing crap dps, not doing enough healing, tanking in tank stance etc. But math in this game is what ruins people's morale so much? Who cares? Let it roll off your shoulders and do better next time.

But then again, this is coming from a tank main. Even if I do get both consecutive questions wrong I'll still survive. Which I honestly wish wasn't the case. I want to get punished just as hard as everyone else.

[Vero_Amethtyst]

It's...... really that simple.

thanks for explaining, but theres no way i'm going to remember all that, like i said before, i got a learning disability, its like telling you to play with only one of your hands, lets see how difficult that would be for you

Does failing it even kill you? All I’ve seen it do is drop your HP a little further but in the end you still rely on your healers to heal you up before he AoEs. I think the only thing you miss is a damage buff, and even that hardly matters cause all his other AoE nonsense is likely to kill you.

i have straight died after failing the two questions, so yes, i think you can die from this, and one of my characters main jobs is healer, my other character's main job is dps, but i'll be making my first character DPS so atleast i feel like less of a burden to my party

[Vero_Amethtyst]

Are you serious? By your logic every single boss should just be a punching bag that takes no action at all because there's always going to be someone with a disability that makes it hard for them to cope with mechanics.

as someone who actually did do deltascape savage 1 and 2 without much issue, i can say i do like that there are mechanics on bosses, some mechanics are really fun to do, but really, this is a test of brain power and i personally think games should be fun, not a math test

[Vero_Amethtyst]

I don't get how failing THIS mechanic out of the whole game can make you so embarrassed. You get ridiculed for standing in AOEs, messing up your rotation, doing crap dps, not doing enough healing, tanking in tank stance etc. But math in this game is what ruins people's morale so much? Who cares? Let it roll off your shoulders and do better next time.

But then again, this is coming from a tank main. Even if I do get both consecutive questions wrong I'll still survive. Which I honestly wish wasn't the case. I want to get punished just as hard as everyone else.

its not being embarrassed at all, typically i can handle people saying stuff to me pretty well, but when i fail at something like math i kinda beat myself up over it, i feel like i've become a burden to my party, especially if i am playing healer at the time which won't be the case for this raid soon, my redmage is almost level 70 and then i'll just DPS this raid on both my characters

[Frizze]

Im sorry you and other people have an issue with this mechanic. I disagree with taking the mechanic out though. No mechanics should be taken out, we have too few interesting mechanics to deal with as it is. Every mechanic(even simple things like "dont stand in the fire") has some people who cant consistently get it. You can still see your groups HP totals after he uses Subtract, so its possible to try to copy what someone else does if you cant calculate on the fly. And the big hit after is survivable even if you failed to compute. Get topped off and throw down a shield and youll make it through(along with anyone else in your group who made a similar error).

[Wilford111]

This is my favorite mechanic out of all the boss fights in Ridorana, it'd be a shame to have it go.

This discussion reminds me of when people called Cuphead an "ableist" game. Meaning people who weren't good at video games couldn't get very far in it, and that caused controversy.

Personally I like having new and interesting mechanics. I wouldn't mind if we had more math-based ones in the future.

[Maeka]

thanks for explaining, but theres no way i'm going to remember all that, like i said before, i got a learning disability, its like telling you to play with only one of your hands, lets see how difficult that would be for you

You don't need to remember it.

Get a piece of paper. Write the following on it:

Prime: 5, 7, 11
3s: 3, 6, 9, 12
4s: 4, 8, 12
5s: 5, 10

Tape it to your monitor, lean it up against something, whatever.

When your HP gets reduced, look at your HP (you have 3 seconds to do this). When he asks for a multiple, look at your piece of paper. Pick the next highest number from the correct row (depending on what he asked you for). Subtract your HP from that (you get 10 seconds to do that).

BINGO.

All you need to do is find the correct row, do one Greater Than, and 1 subtraction.

Example:

Your HP gets reduced to 5.

He tells you that he wants a multiple of 4.

On the 4s row, you see that the next highest is 8. 8 minus 5 is 3. Stand on 3.

EDIT: ALTERNATIVELY, you could count on your fingers too if you can't do subtraction.

Example: You get reduced to 4 and he tells you that he wants a multiple of three.

Look at the 3s row, you see the next up is 6.

You have 4, right?

4, 5, 6. There we go. You're holding 2 fingers up. Stand on 2.

[Maeka]

Or, heck there's another way you could do it without a piece of paper by counting on your fingers:

Look at your current HP number. Wait for him to tell you what he wants. Count on your fingers and ask yourself each time "is this divisible?"

Example: You get 1 and he asks for a multiple of 4.

1: Is this divisible by 4? no.
2: Is this divisible by 4? no. (holding 1 finger up)
3: Is this divisible by 4? no. (holding 2 fingers up)
4: Is this divisible by 4? Yes. (holding 3 fingers up)

Stand on 3.

Given the fact that there are only 4 circles to stand on, you only need to do this a maximum of 5 times, and you get roughly 2 seconds per calculation.

[AmpelioB]

Agreed, it's rough for some people especially with all the other garbage going on.

you mean, literally nothing, right?

[Dualblade]

Something that might make it easier for some is on the first computation, the boss would have us "add up to a certain number". That is what the mechanic actually after all yet I've seen quite a few people get very confused due to thinking the "Subtract" channel the boss uses to reduce our HP is actually what you are supposed to do for the mechanic, or think that you are supposed to muliply or divide your number isntead.

The second computation can still be the "make a prime number" and "make it divisible by X number" due to the first one already showing you for sure what to do.

As some others have said as well the boss does no attacks for this phase, nothing to heal or anything till it ends. The damage buff you get from doing the mechanic right vastly outqeighs the damage you can do to the boss during the phase so just concentrating on the mechanic is fine.