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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Isn't a cats tail vestigial, wouldn't they just wrap it around their waist or something that shows they have common sense, like olacung the tail under the long skirt not through it.
    Uh... no.

    It's used for balance. You cut the tail off a cat (hypothetically) and they'll have to relearn how to walk and balance without it.
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    More options is always a good thing in my book, +1 for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Uh... no.

    It's used for balance. You cut the tail off a cat (hypothetically) and they'll have to relearn how to walk and balance without it.
    What about Manx cats? no tail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunksFoy View Post
    What about Manx cats? no tail.
    They can still have a tail, it's just a little stub which is a naturally occurring genetic mutation within the breed itself similar to the Schnauzer dog breed where they're just little "nubs", but they definitely still qualify as tails. Some can be completely tailless though as you had said earlier.

    However, honestly speaking, the tail doesn't entirely control the balance of a cat either as even ones with tails can be extremely non-graceful. I think that's a false idea that the tail of a cat does more to control their grace and balance than their actual brain does.

    I've owned cats all of my life, the tail helps, but in no way defines a cat's balance, they can still fall off objects and do stupid things. I have one with a brain deficiency problem actually that affects his motor capabilities, he still has a very nice long tail, unfortunately, that tail is not going to save him from falling off the bed like the doofus he is nor stop him from falling over as he walks. Tails are meant to help them balance on higher places mostly and less for walking/daily routines.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 06-01-2018 at 08:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Uh... no.

    It's used for balance. You cut the tail off a cat (hypothetically) and they'll have to relearn how to walk and balance without it.
    I mixed up my words, I meant prehensile, like acting as an additional limb. Basically, I was indicating that is Miqo'tes were real, they would move their tails to more sensible locations around their bodies; like the saiyans from DBZ. Though if Miqo'te are meat to mimic regular humans in everything but a few key features, their tails would be vestigial, like "ours" lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    However, honestly speaking, the tail doesn't entirely control the balance of a cat either as even ones with tails can be extremely non-graceful. I think that's a false idea that the tail of a cat does more to control their grace and balance than their actual brain does.
    The tail is more like that pole tightrope walkers use to balance themselves, it can be done without it but the pole/tail makes it easier.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 06-01-2018 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    Yes, we need tail protection, as long as the display can be toggled off just like /visor does for head pieces!...


    No one wants a poor kitty without a tail, that'd be just cruel and it could happen during combat!...
    Ok if it had a toggle option then I think I will agree that way those that don’t want it won’t use it and those that do will it will add some customisability
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    The tail is more like that pole tightrope walkers use to balance themselves, it can be done without it but the pole/tail makes it easier.
    Exactly. The tail is meant to help them, as you said. It's a tool and extension of their bodies. A cat can still walk and survive with or without it since the Manx is a breed that does not require or always have a long tail. They can have a partial, stub, or none at all. Not to mention, you'll find strays with shortened or injured tails and they're fine in terms of movement. The only time I've legitimately seen cats needing to relearn how to walk through therapy is when an actual leg is missing or needs to be amputated in some way and even so, some are born without one or both of their front or back legs due to a genetic disease or defect. They find ways to continue moving. Animals can be about as determined and ambitious as human beings sometimes.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunksFoy View Post


    You're welcome.
    No
    Both the sarcasm and this pic are not welcome. This is something I, a few others, do not want.

    So no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    People seem to be thinking armored tail = a tail fully encased in armor like a worm in a metal tube. What I believe OP is suggesting is similar to that 1.0 screenshot earlier in the thread. A set of plate or leather armor can have the tail partially covered to show some protection (and attention to friggin detail like we used to have) without it looking odd. The Evenstar set was an abomination that had to have been a joke by the art team for how stupid it looked. I would definitely like this little detail to come back into future designs but I'm doubtful it'll happen.
    This one has the right of it, very well said. This is my intention.
    It doesn't have to look like we're wearing some kinda gimp suit on our tail.
    The comments here only show me how, limited your imaginations are, but she gets it
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    Au Ra tails might be tougher, and scalier, but we need tail armor too. :3
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