Is it getting harder for tanks?

[Gimorian401]

I main as PLD. Ive been noticing the past month that more and more DPS are trying to take hate from me and then make comments to me about it (SAM charging in and immediately doing there 800 pot attack before my shield lob and laughing at me for having to use provoke as an example). As well as DPS running towards the tank with an AoE effect. Ive seen tanks and myself hitting sprint and running away from DPS and getting chased. Am I just very unlucky or is this a thing now?

[TaleraRistain]

I haven't seen it and if I did, I would stand by with you while we let them die and do the walk of shame back. I'm a healer. I support my tank. My tank keeps my squishy butt from becoming chunky salsa.

[Sylvina]

DPS should be considerate towards the tank and if they see theyre starting to come close to overtaking tank aggro, use diversion or something. It doesn't matter if it's becuase the tank isn't very good, what matters is teamwork.

[LeoLupinos]

Let him die, it instantly resets the aggro. Tee-hee.
Actually, it's the best thing to do to these kind of DPS.

[ChameleonMS]

Enmity is shared responsibility, players that fail to accept this reality can die and enjoy being kicked from parties I am in.
If enmity was not a shared responsibility then skills such as Diversion, Lucid Dreaming, Tactician, Elusive Jump, Repelling shot, Purification, Merciful Eyes, etc... would not exist.

[Gemina]

It's a hard role to take on in general in terms of what you will inevitably deal with. Tanks deal with it all, and I had no idea how much until I did it myself. When tanks say, "What's in it for me?" I don't blame them one bit.

I used to think healing was for masochists. Nah. Play tank.

[MoroMurasaki]

Enmity is shared responsibility, players that fail to accept this reality can die and enjoy being kicked from parties I am in.
If enmity was not a shared responsibility then skills such as Diversion, Lucid Dreaming, Tactician, Elusive Jump, Repelling shot, Purification, Merciful Eyes, etc... would not exist.

I agree with this to an extent, but when it comes to pugs I don't think it can be 100% attributed to trolling dps.

I manage my enmity on RDM, I have to or a lot of the bad and/or dps-focused pug tanks I encounter wouldn't hold bosses off of me. There are plenty of times lately (especially in normal raid roulette when I get level 70 raids) that sometimes Diversion and Lucid still have 60+ seconds left and I'm close to ripping hate as a RDM.

While enmity is certainly a shared responsibility I don't think "let any dps that rips hate die" is a reasonable mindset to take on because, as stated, it is a shared responsibility. Part of the burden is on the tank.

If you have someone obviously trolling you in party chat that's one thing but if they just say something like "flash please" in a dungeon or "maybe enmity combo?" that doesn't so much read as trolling to me as much as something I would say when I notice a tank losing hate. If its like "haha lern 2tank brah git gud scrub Dx" then yeah, by all means please shirk that guy and teach him some manners I just want there to be a line between that and perhaps a dps who outgears you just doing their job well.

[ChameleonMS]

While enmity is certainly a shared responsibility I don't think "let any dps that rips hate die" is a reasonable mindset to take on because, as stated, it is a shared responsibility. Part of the burden is on the tank.

You are absolutely correct, it is SHARED. If you were in my party, and I saw you pop diversion for your opener, and slowly crept up the enmity ladder, then dropped again with a Lucid, only creep up again. It is my responsibility as the tank to use an aggro combo and/or tank stance to push you back down. The situation you describe is everyone doing their job.

The situation OP was describing was either trolling, carelessness, or laziness.

[Mixt]

So i'm doing a dungeon for the first time
Since i'm not familiar with the layout i decide to be cautious and only pull one set of mobs at a time, just in case (Bigger pulls will be done on further playthroughs when i know what to expect)

However, the DPS didn't like that, so they ran ahead of me and pulled everything themselves, and promptly died.

Cue the screams of "OMFG RETARD TANK! U SO BAD! I HOPE U GET CANCER!" and other such lines.

...

Or when they get those AOE's that they are supposed to spread out, people instead decide to all converge on me, overlapping all their AOE's and killing both each other and me...and then blame me for it.

Or the healers who won't heal me after tankbusters, and then get mad when i die to an auto-attack or group-wide AOE shortly afterwards.

So yes, in my experience at least tanks get a lot of abuse

[ChameleonMS]

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Always remember, if you are the tank or the healer, the party needs you more than you need them.

Standard strategies are:
1. Water off a duck's back, ignore the BS initially.
2. Say "You pull it, you tank it." (unless you know it was an accidental pull)
3. Any harassment comments like those you received, Initiate the vote kick. It will most often go through unless both other players in the dungeon are in a group with the harasser. One harassing friend is not enough to stop the vote kick.
If the vote fails because the harasser is being protected, simply run around in a circle, never idling (no idle timeout penalty for you) and never saying anything derogatory in the chat. GMs review chat logs should a complaint be filed against you. The GM will see you were being harassed in the chat. The harassers will eventually give in, sometimes even apologize or kick you. If they kick you, enjoy your instant queue to a new duty with better human beings as company.