Suggestion to SE (Housing)

[Okamimaru]

Marlboro server has at least small houses in every housing area except maybe shirogane...

[Vivi_Bushido]

And this proves what? All I see is a failure to go locate the plot and buy the one that was left behind.

Again.....relocation leaves an open plot behind.
Until you people actually wake up to this fact and bother to put some effort into it...you're not convincing anyone.
You want a house? You have to work for it.
They are not the kind of thing that just drop like apples from a tree.
And if you bothered to read my post...you'd see I suggested transferring to a non-congested world. Or making friends to find a plot to obtain otherwise.

The point is, we did work for it. We were both there and had the money to purchase the plot in question. Let alone a plot that was conveniently next door that we had a fighting chance for... that was until this flipper got a free pass to buyout the system for having already owned a home. Yes they had to give up a house, but it isn't the convenient plot we wanted. Now we have to go track down whatever plot they originally had, and still wait for a "newly" restarted timer to end before we can purchase the plot. It's one big giant headache and even if we wait at the new plot, someone else can come along and relocate that one as well. We shouldn't have to keep getting knocked to the bottom of the list just so current home owners can continuously keep ping ponging their homes back and forth each other.

I thought the point of the timer was to give players enough notice that a plot is open at all. Not camp it out for two days only to be snatched beneath you by somebody else deciding they want to move on a whim. No amount of "working for it" can address a flaw in the system such as that. Bottom line is, if you don't already own a house, you're pretty much out of luck, especially for sizes beyond a small. Goodluck getting a medium without acquiring some stepping stone small first.

(PS, even though it's one house per account on a server, if someone already owns a house with their alt, they can still relocate. Joy!)

[NewAgeDoom]

I just wish it wasn't as ungodly expensive to get into housing.

[Okamimaru]

I just wish it wasn't as ungodly expensive to get into housing.

Several houses on Marlboro are under 2 mil

[NewAgeDoom]

Several houses on Marlboro are under 2 mil

Guess it's just the curse of being a poor newbie, then. lol

[Skivvy]

I still have dreams that they will just introduce proper instanced housing for all characters that are created. The existing system could be used as "Luxury" housing for those who actually want the neighborhood feel.

Or maybe just let people decorate inn rooms, and tack on a small garden instance that would give the garden plot + stable. I imagine not everyone is overly fussed about owning an actual house.

[Singularity]

I still have dreams that they will just introduce proper instanced housing for all characters that are created. The existing system could be used as "Luxury" housing for those who actually want the neighborhood feel.

Or maybe just let people decorate inn rooms, and tack on a small garden instance that would give the garden plot + stable. I imagine not everyone is overly fussed about owning an actual house.

Is that not exactly what apartments are? All that's missing from the exact scenario you described is access to gardening, which I'm sure is well within SE's capability to effect.

[Skivvy]

Is that not exactly what apartments are? All that's missing from the exact scenario you described is access to gardening, which I'm sure is well within SE's capability to effect.

It's close, but not exactly the same. Apartments are still a limited. Even those were completely sold out here on Balmung prior to the latest housing expansion, and so basic housing was still unavailable to a lot of players.

XI (I know, everyone's favorite comparison!) gives every single character created access to a Moghome that you can decorate. It expands to include a 2nd story, and a patio, and has a rather large garden instance included with it. This is more in line with what I hope would be included for each player here in Eorzea.

In XIV, Inn rooms are the only thing that is automatically given to each player. If they expanded on the inns, I think that could satisfy a decent chunk of people.

[Remyogic]

While I understand people's frustration over not getting the plot they want due to someone relocating into it before the timer is up; I don't really sympathize with that position at all. I am not currently in a plot I would choose to be my final resting point. My ideal house is a Medium with a beach front view in Mist. However, I bought a small quite a bit away from the beach and will "do my time" there until a plot I REALLY want opens up. I GUARANTEE you that, when such a plot does open up, I will instantly relocate to that plot.

In every complaint I've seen, if the poster had just went out and bought a plot that the timer was already expired on at some previous point in time; they would have been able to instantly relocate to the plot(s) they missed out on, which spurred them into frustration and complaints. In most servers, there are plots available to purchase by a new home-buyer, INSTANTLY. Maybe not the plot you WANT, but that is to be expected. In all likely-hood, if you want the plot for X reason, so do 1,000 other players. You have to out-smart your competition, which is the case in any market. Most complaints don't hold water that there are NO plots available, only that the complainer wants SE to make so that they get the plot they DREAM of.

I'm on Sargantanas, which is in the top 33% of "active" population and when I bought my first house(which was post-4.2) there were around 10 plots between Mist, Goblet, and Lavender Beds that the buy timers were not only expired, but were already on discounted pricing timers.


Moral of the story: play the game, stop hating the player.

[Sukocat]

I will take your "post" seriously when your rational and consider the gravity of your statement and the impact on other servers with your "suggestion" and not your self centered point of view.

Actually, it's your attitude that's a complete lack of regard for others. At no point in my original post did I ever personally attack you, then you come in and attack me, saying I'm selfish and should just move servers if I don't like it (stupidest line of reasoning ever). That's my first point in this.

Secondly, your so-called solutions didn't even address the very problem I was trying to present in the first place, which is why I'm convinced you still haven't read the entirety of my post.

At this point, I'm not even going to spell it out for you.

If you don't want to provide more constructive criticism here, then take it elsewhere. I'm not going to reply to you anymore.