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    Trixie_Strider's Avatar
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    Hair Clippings, please fix in next Update or SOMETHING!

    Seriously, I know we all just "love" to put on that long hair and junk and then cringe as we have to stare at that "beautiful" hair clipping at the back of our clothes because, turns out, hair can just go through clothing like it's not even there.

    Sorry to say but, I prefer short hair anyways so it doesn't effect me much. However it still urks me, really rubs me the wrong way. It maketh me very ANGRY. GRR!

    Please fix devs, so everyone can look at their backsides proudly. Or whatever, just ignore the problem longer...I mean, does it even qaulify as a bug? You fix bugs right?
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    I feel like the only way they could really address this is by adding basic collision physics to long hair styles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    address this is by adding basic collision physics to long hair styles.
    Yeah I figure something like that would work! And it should be absolutely easy to implament, cause they already added a bit of physics to the hair, they just need to put some kinda...well what you said.

    Like a tiny "barrier" between objects
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider View Post
    Yeah I figure something like that would work! And it should be absolutely easy to implament, cause they already added a bit of physics to the hair, they just need to put some kinda...well what you said.

    Like a tiny "barrier" between objects
    The "Physics" for hair you see in game are actually all pre-rendered animations set to trigger under certain conditions; hair is an extremely static object in this game.

    Realistically, they'll never implement it. Or if they did, we'd rarely, if ever see any new hairstyles added to the game going forward. While its just single player games that I worked on, I always heard horror stories from my fellow coders & 3D modelers at a former company how stupid hair can be to get working with physics that don't make it look extremely unnatural, or act incredibly dumb. Beyond that, Square has made it extremely evident this game can be played on older hardware; and that there's a sizeable enough playerbase still playing on old hardware to justify not implementing anything into the game that would force out that playerbase due to it raising system requirements.

    Finally, there's also the fact that they're on their tight 3-4 month patch release schedule, so if they were to take time to implement hair physics, it could set their schedule back or we'd be forced to sacrifice some sort of content for it; which to them might not be worth the time spent. Most you can hope for it is an option like TERA; a completely optional checkbox to put your hair up if you dislike clipping. Given the recent princess attire and all the tails clipping through clothes, its apparent their focus is on a lot of decent quantity; not a lower amount of excellent quality.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 07-29-2018 at 09:23 AM.

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    I'm not sure how easy it is to do. I would really like for it to be introduced, as my character generally has long hair which goes straight through the collars.
    I think that if they where going to fix this, its would have been done by now :-(
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    Obligatory comment about "system limitations".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikki View Post
    Obligatory comment about "system limitations".
    But SE is a small indie studio, don't you know. It's not like they have the money to actually fix all these issues. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Frankly since everything clips in this game I'd rather they just bite the bullet and stop caring. I don't think SE has much room to complain about clipping issues when many of their newest Mog Station items like the princess gown are rife with them.
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    Even if they did add basic collision physics to hair, it has to go 'somewhere'. When you add a brick wall to the clothing, and then of course the body, first thing its going to want to do is find the path of least resistance, straight out the side or up (or mangle itself into a pixel ball). So to make that look natural they'd probably have to add more joints, increasing cost in performance. Then of course if you add this to each character out there, that probably would be valid use of 'system limitations', although more on the users end.

    If they can't even get themselves to give slightly altered looks to clothes for tails, I doubt this even crosses their mind for the 'to do' list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho86 View Post
    or mangle itself into a pixel ball
    This exactly. Mesh collision and self collision on hair has a habit of "going bonkers". When the hair tries to settle down after movement it can do that in wildly differentiating results aka twitchy hair syndrome.

    Tera fixed hair clipping in a clever manner. If your character equipped a long collar jacket for example, your characters long hair would show as tied up version of the same hair mesh.

    Edit: I'm sure talented people at S-E could work something out eventually. I have gear sets with long collars and i have to adjust my hair style with that
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    Last edited by Vurtney; 05-28-2018 at 06:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vurtney View Post
    This exactly. Mesh collision and self collision on hair has a habit of "going bonkers". When the hair tries to settle down after movement it can do that in wildly differentiating results aka twitchy hair syndrome.
    More sense than i made
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