SAM or RDM?

[Maero]

Pretty sure he means end game so Savage, if that is what he mean't then he is correct. Red Mage is weak at that point given that a Bard which has more utility also brings more damage...

The whole but they have raise is not an excuse to have it at such low dps

As for Sam it is sort of the opposite it does have higher damage but Zero support.
Looking at parse numbers for example Smn brings far more damage then Sam plus it has utility. The recent changes to Sam i guess are not enough.
Really though try both jobs and see which job you enjoy the most, do not always go off just by amount of damage a job can do.

[Tex_Mex]

Pretty sure he means end game so Savage, if that is what he mean't then he is correct. Red Mage is weak at that point given that a Bard which has more utility also brings more damage...

The whole but they have raise is not an excuse to have it at such low dps

As for Sam it is sort of the opposite it does have higher damage but Zero support.
Looking at parse numbers for example Smn brings far more damage then Sam plus it has utility. The recent changes to Sam i guess are not enough.
Really though try both jobs and see which job you enjoy the most, do not always go off just by amount of damage a job can do.

You are right about the recent SAM changes not being enough. It was only a roughly 2% DPS increase, which wasn't anywhere near enough to make it competitive with the rDPS contribution of DRG or NIN. And I agree, RDM needs a significant buff to damage. The raise utility really loses its luster at end game.