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    QoL suggestion for paid retainers we can't afford anymore.

    I have a 3rd retainer, but I haven't paid for him for a good while now, partially due to being able to just afford the game.

    He has a bunch of items I want to get from him, but again, the money.

    I'm wondering if there could be a way where we could just remove items from the retainer. Not use them to store anything else/sell anything/ect.

    We're paying for the game, we shouldn't have to pay just to remove items for good from a retainer
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    I agree with you OP. It's a good suggestion.
    I think SE however see it as an incentive to get us subscribing for the extra retainers to access it's inventory space.

    How much is a extra one again, 1€?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    I have a 3rd retainer, but I haven't paid for him for a good while now, partially due to being able to just afford the game.

    He has a bunch of items I want to get from him, but again, the money.
    wait until 1 day of sub is left, buy the one retainer and transfer the items to your other retainers (make enough space before doing it). It should only cost some cents for a single day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    How much is a extra one again, 1€?
    1.40€ / 30 days
    0.047€ / 1 day
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-31-2018 at 05:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    wait until 1 day of sub is left, buy the one retainer and transfer the items to your other retainers (make enough space before doing it). It should only cost some cents for a single day.


    1.40€ / 30 days
    0.047€ / 1 day
    I believe for retainer you either pay the full price or half price if your remaining sub day is 15 or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImDingDing View Post
    I believe for retainer you either pay the full price or half price if your remaining sub day is 15 or less.
    No. The cost adjusts to amount of days remaining on your subs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yasminou View Post
    And cannot be below 1 € I think.
    It can if you pay with Crysta.
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    Last edited by mosaicex; 05-31-2018 at 08:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosaicex View Post
    No. The cost adjusts to amount of days remaining on your subs.
    And cannot be below 1 € I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImDingDing View Post
    I believe for retainer you either pay the full price or half price if your remaining sub day is 15 or less.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasminou View Post
    And cannot be below 1 € I think.
    I have 11 days sub left. 1 extra retainer for those 11 days would cost me 51 crystas, which are 0.51€
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    I think they'd hesitate to do this because it would be too easy to exploit. Get a retainer for the cost of one month (or less), stuff 175 items into it, and you cleared up 175 inventory space indefinitely. Sure, you can't refill it, but if you use the retainer (or retainers) to store rarely-used stuff you've gathered or looted, it would still be worthwhile. Maybe keep all those dungeon drops for classes you're not planning to level for a while. Square Enix wants you to keep paying for retainers, so giving an incentive not to isn't good business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    I think they'd hesitate to do this because it would be too easy to exploit. Get a retainer for the cost of one month (or less), stuff 175 items into it, and you cleared up 175 inventory space indefinitely. Sure, you can't refill it, but if you use the retainer (or retainers) to store rarely-used stuff you've gathered or looted, it would still be worthwhile. Maybe keep all those dungeon drops for classes you're not planning to level for a while. Square Enix wants you to keep paying for retainers, so giving an incentive not to isn't good business.
    It's perfectly good business, because it offers better customer service. Extracting every penny of profit possible from your customers is rarely a good bet for the long-term health of a company, particularly when the extraction is as visible as it is with FFXIV. Frankly, they should just be improving the storage mechanisms included with the base subscription, and dropping these extra Retainers entirely. There's no good justification for the P2W component (extra MB slots vs. other players), and there's no good justification for the paid-storage component (it's insanely expensive for what you get, and damages the reputation of FFXIV and its development team).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    It's perfectly good business, because it offers better customer service. Extracting every penny of profit possible from your customers is rarely a good bet for the long-term health of a company, particularly when the extraction is as visible as it is with FFXIV. Frankly, they should just be improving the storage mechanisms included with the base subscription, and dropping these extra Retainers entirely. There's no good justification for the P2W component (extra MB slots vs. other players), and there's no good justification for the paid-storage component (it's insanely expensive for what you get, and damages the reputation of FFXIV and its development team).
    If you want to argue retainers should be free, great, but what does that have to do with my point? Free retainers should be free, not semi-free based on a shoehorned-in system where you can do one-time storage with indefinite retrieval. As long as retainers are paid, they should probably work the way they do right now. Making them free is a completely different discussion.
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