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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    One question. How do u heal if u crumble under pressure? Thats assuming u do some extreme primal or end-game raids.
    if you mean by end game raids like savage, i gave up one delta 3, the pressure was too hard and the mechanics were too difficult for me to do, but realized by doing these raids it would completely defeat the purpose of doing the content that i enjoy

    and i actually don't do extreme primals, i wasn't so much interested in it, my favorite content in the game is the 24 player raids, i loved doing them back in ARR and heavensward, i was sad when world of darkness was no longer being ran but am happy we have a alliance roulette now

    so yes, depending on the difficulty i just simply don't do it like the savage tier raids.. i might give extremes a try but i just can't be bothered at the time to do it, i do recall really enjoying the extremes in ARR so there is hope for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    and if they wanted to make it simple they would have used plus and minus math because it doesn't get any simplier then that,
    You're not capable of counting on your fingers?

    Because literally that's all you need to do if you write yourself a little note and stick it next to your monitor. I explained this in a previous post, but I'll try again:

    3s: 3, 6, 9, 12
    4s: 4, 8, 12
    5s: 5, 10
    Prime: 5, 7, 11

    The "I can't read fast enough" ... just keep in mind "the rows are in order with prime being last". Find the row. Find the next highest number after your HP total, count on your fingers until you arrive at that number. Stand on the square that is the same as the number of fingers you are holding up. It is really that simple.

    No addition, no subtraction of any kind other than "one, two, three, four" style counting.

    "Too much pressure!"

    The entire battle stops for 13 seconds to give you time to collect your thoughts.

    Example: You have HP of 7, he asks for 3s.

    "Threes row. Next up is 9."
    "7.... 8..... 9." (holding 2 fingers up)
    Okay I stand on 2 because I'm holding 2 fingers up.

    I mean, there's no way to make it any simpler than that to be quite honest. And as someone else asked, if that is too much pressure for you, how do you calculate if you need Medica, Medica II, etc if you can't deal with numbers? You at the very least need to understand roughly what % your heals land for, right? If you see someone that's half dead, will a Cure heal that? No, Cure II? etc etc.

    EDIT:

    Alternatively, you could write something like this (I'm going to put it vertically, because doing it horizontally would be impossible on the forum):

    1
    2
    3 (Threes)
    4 (Fours)
    5 (Fives, Prime)
    6 (Threes)
    7 (Prime)
    8 (Fours)
    9 (Threes)
    10 (Fives)
    11 (Prime)
    12 (Threes, Fours)

    And the way you'd use this example, is let's say he gives you 4 and asks for a Prime.

    You start on 4 on the chart. You count up from 4, with your fingers and stop when you find a Prime (which is 7). You're holding 3 fingers up. Go stand on 3. I think this idea is even simpler than looking at the chart that was linked earlier in the thread, it's much quicker and easier to read and calculate and all you need is one hand with 4 functional fingers lol. You don't need to do ANY kind of math at all, other than simple counting that anybody above 2-3 years old can do.
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    Last edited by Maeka; 06-01-2018 at 06:42 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    You're not capable of counting on your fingers?
    why do you defend this mechanic so hard? i am very curious..

    i've tried the chart and i've tried what you told me, still not doin' it for me because i get into panic mode and can't process the info fast enough, by the time i've reached the conclusion its too late
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    why do you defend this mechanic so hard? i am very curious..

    i've tried the chart and i've tried what you told me, still not doin' it for me because i get into panic mode and can't process the info fast enough, by the time i've reached the conclusion its too late
    Count with your fingers. The post above yours is actually pretty ingenious lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    why do you defend this mechanic so hard? i am very curious..

    i've tried the chart and i've tried what you told me, still not doin' it for me because i get into panic mode and can't process the info fast enough, by the time i've reached the conclusion its too late
    Probably because it really is not that hard and even with solutions people complain. It is not that hard and even with tips people complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Sorry to tell you this, if a person can operate a PC or gaming console it's not a learning disability. It's called being lazy. SE took into consideration and made it very easy. They can just remember answers and not do math.
    No, no it's not. Dyscalculia is a thing. You don't need to do division and all that junk to turn on a PC or a PS4. If it was possible, I would have already learned all of this stuff when I was in school, but I'm in my 30's now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    why do you defend this mechanic so hard? i am very curious..

    i've tried the chart and i've tried what you told me, still not doin' it for me because i get into panic mode and can't process the info fast enough, by the time i've reached the conclusion its too late
    Did you try my Edit? Because you don't have to do ANY math whatsoever. None.

    And I "defend" this mechanic because it is unique. I like unique mechanics, they keep the game nice and fresh. I get that some will struggle with certain mechanics, hey, give me something Zodiac-related and I will be scratching my head in confusion, or anything having to do with Music Notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Probably because it really is not that hard and even with solutions people complain. It is not that hard and even with tips people complain.
    this is another thing that bothers me, when people say "its not that hard" or "its simple" because i simply cannot remember any of this or make sense of it so when i can't do something "easy" or "simple" it makes me feel useless or stupid, you understanding my frustration with this yet? and i seriously will not give up with making my point, so we could be at this argument right into the next expansion if you don't give up now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Did you try my Edit? Because you don't have to do ANY math whatsoever. None.

    And I "defend" this mechanic because it is unique. I like unique mechanics, they keep the game nice and fresh. I get that some will struggle with certain mechanics, hey, give me something Zodiac-related and I will be scratching my head in confusion, or anything having to do with Music Notes.
    unique is fine, infact i encourage unique, but i disapprove of mechanics like this heavily as i do not find this sort of mechanic remotely fine, any other mechanic in place of this would be 100 times better then this, heck i would take a savage mechanic over this.. but lets say they used a mechanic like the ones you mentioned, what if they used musical notes where we had to match a sound played to us to a note printed on the ground, how would that make you feel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    but lets say they used a mechanic like the ones you mentioned, what if they used musical notes where we had to match a sound played to us to a note printed on the ground, how would that make you feel?
    I would be looking for tricks like the chart I posted above, I'd look for some way to work around my inability to grasp musical notation and my inability to recognize tones. Or I would simply die and get carried lol.

    Or who knows.... maybe after hearing these tones and associating them with the little symbols I could never understand before time after time after time.... maybe a lightbulb would go off in my head and I'd be like "WOW, so that's what a C Sharp that I keep hearing about, is!"
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