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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Sorry to tell you this, if a person can operate a PC or gaming console it's not a learning disability. It's called being lazy. SE took into consideration and made it very easy. They can just remember answers and not do math.
    i don't think you know what a learning disability is, you're thinking of a physical disability or severe mental disabilities, i'm not a retard, i actually can do some pretty complex stuff actually, but when it comes to learning anything involving numbers i struggle with

    and if they wanted to make it simple they would have used plus and minus math because it doesn't get any simplier then that, they decided to go with stuff i couldn't do without a calculator because japan is simplier smarter then us

    you say remember the answers.. i can't even remember my own cell phone number.. seriously..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    i don't think you know what a learning disability is,you're thinking of a physical disability or severe mental disabilities, i'm not a retard, i actually can do some pretty complex stuff actually, but when it comes to learning anything involving numbers i struggle with

    and if they wanted to make it simple they would have used plus and minus math because it doesn't get any simplier then that, they decided to go with stuff i couldn't do without a calculator because japan is simplier smarter then us

    you say remember the answers.. i can't even remember my own cell phone number.. seriously..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Disabilities come in all types, it isn't "just being lazy".

    That said, Vero, the math mechanic here IS essentially simple addition. The problem comes more from it being making it a "multiplive" or "dividend" of a number which can even trip up people that would normally do well because of pressure to do it right in a short time limit. Well, it could be considered one problem.

    Easiest way is many cases is to try and add up to the number the machine gives you (outside the Prime one atleast) atleast in situations where you aren't already over.

    OH also, one you can bypass the 1000 character limit by editing posts (saw you say something about double posting cause of that.)

    Ok here is a hint write it down use code to make it simple near your screen. With numbers that can be used. All you have to do is read it and not do math. I'm sure you can read fast enough. I don't have a learning disability and to be honest I don't remember phone numbers that is what the contact list is for on the phone and online so in case you lose your phone they are not lost. Just so you both know my brother struggles with dyslexia meaning ;a general term for disorders that involve difficulty in learning to read or interpret words, letters, and other symbols, but that do not affect general intelligence. and he plays along with me. I admire him for that and while he may struggle he does not use it as an excuse. If anything he detest being told he has a disability. When there is a will there is a way. Maybe not everyone has the self esteem to see things like my brother, I however can see where it comes in. Other choice would be to let people carry you if you really are struggling, it's ok not everyone can admit it, just many use it as an excuse.
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    i've already said that having a ref sheet still can cause fumble ups because of pressure... and no i can't read fast enough, i have to watch dubbed anime because i can't keep up with the text on screen and miss all the animation because thats where my eyes are focused during the dialogue

    also to really nail it home how long it takes me to read.. it took me several hours to work through the 4.2 to the end of 4.3 story content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    i've already said that having a ref sheet still can cause fumble ups because of pressure... and no i can't read fast enough, i have to watch dubbed anime because i can't keep up with the text on screen and miss all the animation because thats where my eyes are focused during the dialogue
    Well playing / working under pressure is a skill that takes time to develop, comes with experience. If anything people get killed more when he spins around than math portion, so you can practice till your good or just do best you can. It can be frustrating and I believe limitations are only placed by our selves. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    i've already said that having a ref sheet still can cause fumble ups because of pressure... and no i can't read fast enough, i have to watch dubbed anime because i can't keep up with the text on screen and miss all the animation because thats where my eyes are focused during the dialogue

    also to really nail it home how long it takes me to read.. it took me several hours to work through the 4.2 to the end of 4.3 story content
    One question. How do u heal if u crumble under pressure? Thats assuming u do some extreme primal or end-game raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    One question. How do u heal if u crumble under pressure? Thats assuming u do some extreme primal or end-game raids.
    if you mean by end game raids like savage, i gave up one delta 3, the pressure was too hard and the mechanics were too difficult for me to do, but realized by doing these raids it would completely defeat the purpose of doing the content that i enjoy

    and i actually don't do extreme primals, i wasn't so much interested in it, my favorite content in the game is the 24 player raids, i loved doing them back in ARR and heavensward, i was sad when world of darkness was no longer being ran but am happy we have a alliance roulette now

    so yes, depending on the difficulty i just simply don't do it like the savage tier raids.. i might give extremes a try but i just can't be bothered at the time to do it, i do recall really enjoying the extremes in ARR so there is hope for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    and if they wanted to make it simple they would have used plus and minus math because it doesn't get any simplier then that,
    You're not capable of counting on your fingers?

    Because literally that's all you need to do if you write yourself a little note and stick it next to your monitor. I explained this in a previous post, but I'll try again:

    3s: 3, 6, 9, 12
    4s: 4, 8, 12
    5s: 5, 10
    Prime: 5, 7, 11

    The "I can't read fast enough" ... just keep in mind "the rows are in order with prime being last". Find the row. Find the next highest number after your HP total, count on your fingers until you arrive at that number. Stand on the square that is the same as the number of fingers you are holding up. It is really that simple.

    No addition, no subtraction of any kind other than "one, two, three, four" style counting.

    "Too much pressure!"

    The entire battle stops for 13 seconds to give you time to collect your thoughts.

    Example: You have HP of 7, he asks for 3s.

    "Threes row. Next up is 9."
    "7.... 8..... 9." (holding 2 fingers up)
    Okay I stand on 2 because I'm holding 2 fingers up.

    I mean, there's no way to make it any simpler than that to be quite honest. And as someone else asked, if that is too much pressure for you, how do you calculate if you need Medica, Medica II, etc if you can't deal with numbers? You at the very least need to understand roughly what % your heals land for, right? If you see someone that's half dead, will a Cure heal that? No, Cure II? etc etc.

    EDIT:

    Alternatively, you could write something like this (I'm going to put it vertically, because doing it horizontally would be impossible on the forum):

    1
    2
    3 (Threes)
    4 (Fours)
    5 (Fives, Prime)
    6 (Threes)
    7 (Prime)
    8 (Fours)
    9 (Threes)
    10 (Fives)
    11 (Prime)
    12 (Threes, Fours)

    And the way you'd use this example, is let's say he gives you 4 and asks for a Prime.

    You start on 4 on the chart. You count up from 4, with your fingers and stop when you find a Prime (which is 7). You're holding 3 fingers up. Go stand on 3. I think this idea is even simpler than looking at the chart that was linked earlier in the thread, it's much quicker and easier to read and calculate and all you need is one hand with 4 functional fingers lol. You don't need to do ANY kind of math at all, other than simple counting that anybody above 2-3 years old can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    You're not capable of counting on your fingers?
    why do you defend this mechanic so hard? i am very curious..

    i've tried the chart and i've tried what you told me, still not doin' it for me because i get into panic mode and can't process the info fast enough, by the time i've reached the conclusion its too late
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vero_Amethtyst View Post
    why do you defend this mechanic so hard? i am very curious..

    i've tried the chart and i've tried what you told me, still not doin' it for me because i get into panic mode and can't process the info fast enough, by the time i've reached the conclusion its too late
    Probably because it really is not that hard and even with solutions people complain. It is not that hard and even with tips people complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Probably because it really is not that hard and even with solutions people complain. It is not that hard and even with tips people complain.
    this is another thing that bothers me, when people say "its not that hard" or "its simple" because i simply cannot remember any of this or make sense of it so when i can't do something "easy" or "simple" it makes me feel useless or stupid, you understanding my frustration with this yet? and i seriously will not give up with making my point, so we could be at this argument right into the next expansion if you don't give up now
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