Don't use a chart for Construct 7, really...

[Vero_Amethtyst]

I would be looking for tricks like the chart I posted above, I'd look for some way to work around my inability to grasp musical notation and my inability to recognize tones. Or I would simply die and get carried lol.

Or who knows.... maybe after hearing these tones and associating them with the little symbols I could never understand before time after time after time.... maybe a lightbulb would go off in my head and I'd be like "WOW, so that's what a C Sharp that I keep hearing about, is!"

well if you feel confident enough i hope next raid introduces it now so you can feel the struggle too, or introduce something you won't be able to make sense of while everyone else tells you "its easy" "its simple" so you can feel like me

[Wilford111]

unique is fine, infact i encourage unique, but i disapprove of mechanics like this heavily as i do not find this sort of mechanic remotely fine, any other mechanic in place of this would be 100 times better then this, heck i would take a savage mechanic over this.. but lets say they used a mechanic like the ones you mentioned, what if they used musical notes where we had to match a sound played to us to a note printed on the ground, how would that make you feel?

Being someone who is actually gifted with music and could probably do the mechanic you described, I still wouldn't be in favor of it. Doing math and pinpointing musical notes are entirely different. Math is something everyone needs to do every single day, and indeed almost everyone can do it, even if some need a little help.

Since you haven't addressed Maeka's edit, I highly suggest doing that.

[Maeka]

well if you feel confident enough i hope next raid introduces it now so you can feel the struggle too, or introduce something you won't be able to make sense of while everyone else tells you "its easy" "its simple" so you can feel like me

On some more thought, I bet what I would likely do, is find a program that can make .midi files.

I would make a midi file that is simply each possible note played one after another on piano and I would memorize the order in which the notes were, like.... A B C D E F.

While my musical notation and tone understanding blows, my sound memory is actually rather good. I'd quickly alt-tab, play the midi file (I would have the midi player and file ready before the battle obviously), and just say "A, B, C, D, E, F" until the tone I hear coming from the MIDI matches the tone I heard in-game. "A, B, C, D.... okay that was a D." and I would likely have a musical note chart taped to my monitor so I know which one D is.

[KeaneR]

Being someone who is actually gifted with music and could probably do the mechanic you described, I still wouldn't be in favor of it. Doing math and pinpointing musical notes are entirely different. Math is something everyone needs to do every single day, and indeed almost everyone can do it, even if some need a little help.

Since you haven't addressed Maeka's edit, I highly suggest doing that.

And we are talking about basic maths here, something you probably learnt before you started school, and if not certainly in your first year.

I do understand that this may be a lot more difficult for people with dyscalcula, but that's no different from people with dyslexia having to read onscreen instructions (which are a lot more prolific). It would be almost impossible for a developer to write a game which doesn't, at some point, affect someone with a disability.

[Linx0r]

its called a learning disability

i don't see why people are defending this mechanic so much, buncha SE defenders... any other kind of mechanic would have been fine, just don't bring numbers into it and ask convoluted questions to form some answer, like i could not tell you the answer even if you asked me in the simpliest way, i'd have to bust out my calculator which i do very very often

Not to sound insensitive, (and I appologize to anyone out there with any disability) but this game is catered to millions of players. SE can’t release content that cateres to each individual. There are other methods for doing this mechanic. Or just die to it and get rezzed

[Maeka]

Not to sound insensitive, (and I appologize to anyone out there with any disability) but this game is catered to millions of players. SE can’t release content that cateres to each individual. There are other methods for doing this mechanic. Or just die to it and get rezzed

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Pretty much, this.

I don't mean to be insensitive either, there's always going to be that one mechanic that just trips you every single time, that you never truly get the hang of, or you always mess up on. It happens to all of us, really. I mean, to this day, there are STILL a couple things about Ravana I could never get (like how to avoid that stupid Tupsaya or whatever that's spelled, the thing that knocks you back three times in a row and does a ridiculous amount of damage). I've tried not attacking him thinking it's a counter-attack (nope), I've tried standing back away from him (nope) I've tried strafing around to his side (nope). Nothing seems to work. I still do this day do not know how to deal with that stupid attack and it always kills, or near kills me as main tank every time.

[Frizze]

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Pretty much, this.

I don't mean to be insensitive either, there's always going to be that one mechanic that just trips you every single time, that you never truly get the hang of, or you always mess up on. It happens to all of us, really. I mean, to this day, there are STILL a couple things about Ravana I could never get (like how to avoid that stupid Tupsaya or whatever that's spelled, the thing that knocks you back three times in a row and does a ridiculous amount of damage). I've tried not attacking him thinking it's a counter-attack (nope), I've tried standing back away from him (nope) I've tried strafing around to his side (nope). Nothing seems to work. I still do this day do not know how to deal with that stupid attack and it always kills, or near kills me as main tank every time.

I might be remembering it wrong, but i thought that mechanic targetted the off tank. So they might just be too close to you. Or i might remember it wrong.

[Besame]

And we are talking about basic maths here, something you probably learnt before you started school, and if not certainly in your first year.

I do understand that this may be a lot more difficult for people with dyscalcula, but that's no different from people with dyslexia having to read onscreen instructions (which are a lot more prolific). It would be almost impossible for a developer to write a game which doesn't, at some point, affect someone with a disability.

Speaking of "learned" in school, in formal writing, coordinating conjunctions (for, and, nor, but, or, yet, so) are disapproved as sentence starting words. In addition, is "learnt" a word? Oh, and you forgot the comma after "and if not". Have some sympathy for those with math weaknesses Mr. Perfect English. When people attempt to make others feel that their skills are inadequate, it may just point out their own.

[Hestzhyen]

Speaking of "learned" in school, in formal writing, coordinating conjunctions (for, and, nor, but, or, yet, so) are disapproved as sentence starting words. In addition, is "learnt" a word? Oh, and you forgot the comma after "and if not". Have some sympathy for those with math weaknesses Mr. Perfect English. When people attempt to make others feel that their skills are inadequate, it may just point out their own.

KeaneR was actually polite about the fact that there is no way for devs to keep every disability under the sun in mind when creating fight mechanics- someone out there is going to have a harder time of it no matter what they do. It's the simple truth. The Construct 7 fight is actually very generous, probably because they were aware that some people wouldn't be able to do the job quickly or possibly at all without assistance. You can focus entirely on adding up to the right number and not be punished for it. People with the same HP as you can show you where to go or you can keep a handy chart ready if need be as well. The numbers are small enough that someone on voice chat can give you directions while they sort themselves out too. And given time, this mechanic won't even kill you if you mess it up due to ilvl stat inflation. It only happens twice to boot.

I have a lot of sympathy for people's weaknesses. My own phobias made the whole Ruby Sea section a nail-biting nightmare for me. But I won't ask the devs to make work-arounds or accommodate since it is one tiny part of a much larger game. People have called me silly or stupid or said "wow it's just a game/swimming underwater, why are you so worked up over it?" and it's pretty much impossible to explain that I can't help it, I can only manage and control it. It's the same deal here- this mechanic unintentionally sucks for a small part of the playerbase. They're wrongly getting insulted as being intellectually challenged and probably feel bad that they're struggling in a way that they didn't really expect to in a video game. But the devs can't tip-toe around every single phobia or disability and still create a game worth playing. I dealt with Ruby Sea as well as I could, and players with dyscalcula are managing as best they can too. They're not helpless and incapable of doing basic things... it just takes more effort to get the job done.

[Maeka]

So, I came up with an even simpler way to do this mechanic.

This new way, you don't even have to count on your fingers. All you need to be able to do, is +1 a number and look at a chart. You can do that, right? Count from one to ten?

Get a little strip of paper, and write this on it:

1
2
3 (Threes)
4 (Fours)
5 (Fives, Prime)
6 (Threes)
7 (Prime)
8 (Fours)
9 (Threes)
10 (Fives)
11 (Prime)
12 (Threes, Fours)

Tape it to the side of your monitor.

When you get the HP Down debuff, run towards the left-most (the #1) circle, and face the boss's side of the room (don't face him directly because that'll be diagonal). Don't stand where the circle is going to pop, but right next to it.

In the meantime, look over at the little piece of paper you wrote this stuff on. Find your number on it.

Wait for the boss to tell you what he wants. Compare your number to the chart.

Strafe Right, and as you pass through Circle #1, count up one from your HP number and see if it meets the criteria.

If not, Strafe Right some more and as you pass through Circle #2, count up one more and check again.

Continue doing this until you meet the criteria. Stop in that circle.

Example:

You are given 4 and he wants Threes.

Stand near Circle #1.

Is "Threes" written after 4? No. Strafe right into Circle #1.
Count up to 5. Is "Threes" written after 5? No. Strafe Right into Circle #2.
Count up to 6. Is "Threes" written after 6? Yes. Stay in that circle.

That way, you don't even have to any kind of math at all, other than counting numbers <12.

EDIT: You know, since Construct 7 is a robot, you guys are lucky that you don't have to count in binary or hex. lol. I could only imagine the rage if they did that.