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    Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    So I see people starting to make charts on how to handle that substract mechanic...

    In all honesty, please try to understand the mechanic instead of using charts... it is nothing hard.
    And also, because instead of helping, it looks like charts are actually making people even more confuse on how to handle said mechanic.
    Try this out https://www.understood.org/en/tools/...imulation=true I don't have dyscalculia, but it helped me understand what it is.
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 05-26-2018 at 08:23 PM.

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    Pastahnak Popotonak
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    Fisher Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Try this out https://www.understood.org/en/tools/...imulation=true I don't have dyscalculia, but it helped me understand what it is.
    Well that was tough, now time to make a quiz where a giant robot tells you to divide that or he kills you.
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    I ran the instance yesterday for the first time and found the fight to be quite fun. Nothing was explained but it was pretty straightforward to me on how the math worked. Math tends to be not liked very much (including by me) so it's not surprising and understandable to see people having issues with it though.

    I didn't know dyscalculia was even a thing until I saw this topic. Thank you for teaching me something new.

    I say use whatever tool you need in order to do the mechanic successfully.
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    Veronica Amethyst
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    personally i think this mechanic should be made simpler, maybe use simpler math like plus and minus, or just replace the mechanic entirely with something anyone could do

    i myself have a learning disability and this mechanic really stresses me out, and i main a whitemage, so its kinda crucial that i get this mechanic down otherwise the other healer will get all the strain, i will be using the chart that was posted because i can leave it open in my second screen so i can have a quick glance at it when the mechanic comes about
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    Jubii Io
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    Doesnt the raid literally give the answers to the multiples and primes before the fight? If I remember correctly its somethin you gotta stop and interact with actually, so they probably dont pay attention to that. I actually found it interesting that a video game of all things made me recall my basic math lessons in school in order to succeed. Usually hop into games to escape the outside world, but I liked this. It was unique.
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    i was told it does, but honestly, you think someone with some sort of learning disability will remember the answers if they struggle to remember a times table? i honestly really don't like this mechanic, i tried using the chart today with this boss and even 10 seconds isn't enough time to figure it out for me plus the pressure ontop of it to figure it out

    i honestly think this mechanic needs a change and there are a few ways to change it to make it simplier for people like me with some sorta learning disability, heres some ideas, they can be used on their own or in combination with each other
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    Myrhn Shirayuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanitezz View Post
    Doesnt the raid literally give the answers to the multiples and primes before the fight? If I remember correctly its somethin you gotta stop and interact with actually, so they probably dont pay attention to that. I actually found it interesting that a video game of all things made me recall my basic math lessons in school in order to succeed. Usually hop into games to escape the outside world, but I liked this. It was unique.
    Yes it does but saying u cant do because X reason is more easy.
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


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    Veronica Amethyst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linx0r View Post
    Solution: click Start>Run... in the window type: calc

    Use this to help with the mechanic . It’s an old school trick for beating the mechanic, and without a diagram or having to think

    Oh, don’t thank me....my advice is always free
    would take more then 10 seconds to do that and with the pressure i am sure there would be many fumbles
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    A: more time to figure out the answer (this would help with the pressure abit on people)
    B: use even simplier math like just + and - (i think this would make the mechanic way simplier for people)
    C: don't use math at all, instead use a question involving shapes or something, for example, if you have 2 what shape would you stand on? none because 2 faces aren't a shape, if it says 3 you stand on a triangle because a triangle has 3 faces
    D: remove this mechanic entirely

    as it stands now i give up on this mechanic, i'll just go in as a DPS and not even do anything when the mechanic comes up as i don't want to get upset or stressed because of the pressure... and when i die i hope people come onto the forums complaining that the mechanic has to change, we shouldn't give SE a pass on this sorta mechanic because they'll try to use it again at some point

    and we all know how educational games went in the 90s, they flopped hard because educational games are not fun
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    Last edited by Vero_Amethtyst; 05-31-2018 at 05:14 AM.

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    Natti Lockeheart
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    Sargatanas
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    Solution: click Start>Run... in the window type: calc

    Use this to help with the mechanic . It’s an old school trick for beating the mechanic, and without a diagram or having to think

    Oh, don’t thank me....my advice is always free
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