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    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    my last group fought him for 20+ mins so I do not believe (in god) there is any sort of DPS check.
    No, what I meant was you don't stop DPSing while he does the math stuff, unless you are melee and the circle prevents it.
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    when did everyone become such jerks? It's not the math, its the fact that you're asking people to DPS as well as do math with a moderate time limit. People also don't get that you are supposed to stand in one instead of tap it and keep adding numbers, as well as that you only add them, since the boss uses subtract and multiply. Some don't look at their HP because it's still at full and they miss the downgrading. People get it when you explain it, but its a bit annoying to see all the "durrr hurr stupid people" over an unusual mechanic the first week of the raid. And yes, i can do it fine.

    I hope Yoshi adds this to savage with three digit totals and single digit primes as the pools you have to tap. Be forgiving of other people, don't crow over it, yeesh
    I flipped out on my guild for this behavior as well. It's FOUR DAYS since the patch and I swear our spoilers channel was nothing but a circle jerk of people talking about how awesome they are and how much everyone else sucks because they don't have this 100% perfect by day 1. Like, what is wrong with you people?

    Ironically I'm a programmer and luckily one of the people this comes easy to. It doesn't come easily to everyone and there's nothing at all wrong with that.

    calm down people. There's a LOT going on in this mechanic.
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    Anemone_Valesti's Avatar
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    Hitman Hohenheim
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    I flipped out on my guild for this behavior as well. It's FOUR DAYS since the patch and I swear our spoilers channel was nothing but a circle jerk of people talking about how awesome they are and how much everyone else sucks because they don't have this 100% perfect by day 1. Like, what is wrong with you people?

    Ironically I'm a programmer and luckily one of the people this comes easy to. It doesn't come easily to everyone and there's nothing at all wrong with that.

    calm down people. There's a LOT going on in this mechanic.
    Those people got to get their validation from somewhere. No one else will give it to them xD
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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    when did everyone become such jerks? It's not the math, its the fact that you're asking people to DPS as well as do math with a moderate time limit.
    Do they? You don't have to dps while you're figuring out the mechanic. Besides, the 10 seconds of no dps to get the mechanic right is made up by the damage buff that you get.
    And even then, the alliance raids aren't like savage fights, with tight dps checks. It's okay to step back on dps to do a mechanic properly.

    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp
    People also don't get that you are supposed to stand in one instead of tap it and keep adding numbers, as well as that you only add them, since the boss uses subtract and multiply. Some don't look at their HP because it's still at full and they miss the downgrading. People get it when you explain it, but its a bit annoying to see all the "durrr hurr stupid people" over an unusual mechanic the first week of the raid. And yes, i can do it fine.
    I'll agree that the initial Subtract cast could've been named different to remove some of the confusion (something along the lines of "Initiating Calculations" or something), but the rest can be figured out through trial and error. At first, I thought the debuff indicated the number I had to multiply (which wasn't the case), then I noticed my health being a signal digit, since my debuffs are close enough to my health bar to notice the change. I then noticed that moving into one of the circles increased the single digit by the amount of dots shown, and moving out of it caused that single digit to return to normal.
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    Last edited by Nezerius; 05-26-2018 at 03:12 AM.

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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    when did everyone become such jerks?
    Ask yourself that, coming into a thread making light of a boss that has given a lot of the playerbase stress and tossing around accusations like that.
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    ForctyusGold's Avatar
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    Forctyus Goldmaul
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    well my problem with him is that i am not so good in this side of english and i dont think i want improve, others must fight this fight ... unless someone in SE will change this mechanic to something same but mechanics to be understandable i dont like using google translator when he starts this cast lol
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    Lucien Valeriant
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    Twintania
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    I had trouble understanding what exactly he wanted me to do ._. I thought I needed to mutiply/divide my health by the dots rather than add them together... But that was probably my dyslexia making it difficult lol
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    Rinion's Avatar
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    Lapiz Lazuli
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerbolt View Post
    I had trouble understanding what exactly he wanted me to do ._. I thought I needed to mutiply/divide my health by the dots rather than add them together... But that was probably my dyslexia making it difficult lol
    That's very understandable. I thought that the circles subtracted from your health (cus he casts Subtract beforehand). Figuring out what the puddles do and how you reach the ultimate goal of what he's saying is just general trial and error ^.^
    Thankfully I semi-accidentally stumbled through it the first time so that helped with the 2nd time XD
    I can see how this might be kinda difficult while playing a DPS tho. I was only playing a healer so I only had a very simple rotation to do while doing the math. DPSs are more complicated tho, and I might have trouble doing both (but I wanna try now XD)
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    Amaya-Asha's Avatar
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    Nahla Tishatar
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerbolt View Post
    I had trouble understanding what exactly he wanted me to do ._. I thought I needed to mutiply/divide my health by the dots rather than add them together... But that was probably my dyslexia making it difficult lol

    I was having the same issue totally panicked. Felt like great now my dyslexiia going be a mini boss in this game><. once i looked up prime numbers helped. I Ran that 24man all week like it was homework I feel better about IT. still mess up but I'm getting better. What really helped was on like tenth run a party member explained in a way i could understand.
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    Last edited by Amaya-Asha; 05-26-2018 at 03:49 PM.

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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    I feel ashamed of myself after getting into the new 24-man last night and getting to him. I do payroll for a living, so math is my life....I failed - HARD - at him. Mind you, I did go in blind, and nobody in the raid was explaining anything. I did catch on to most of the other stuff though...so I just need to run it a few more times(bet I will get it a few times during Mentor Roulette this weekend) to practice that part.
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