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    Maeka's Avatar
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Eureka First Impressions (kinda ranty)

    So apparently it is impossible to go further in the MSQ without having to do Eureka because you need 335 to do the trial that was just released, and of course, the only way to GET 335+ gear is by raids..... or Eureka form what I can tell.

    I've never seen them do this before in any previous patch, requiring raids or some side-content to get gear so you can continue with the MSQ so not sure why they're doing it now. It used to be that each dungeon would give you the gear you need for the next. You weren't forced into raids or some grindy side-content to progress the MSQ.

    Well anyways, fine. I'll go to Eureka.

    I arrive there, and I learn about the various systems and I try a few fights right outside, and naturally.... apparently they think that bringing back FFXI is a good thing somehow. Why, I don't know. Takes absolutely forever to kill anything and I get a piddly 50XP out of the 1000 I need for a levelup.

    So I start asking for groups and why it's FFXI all over again! Nobody wants a Lv1 newbie, not even a healer. And as a tank, I'd be rather useless because getting hit from anything higher than Lv1 is apparent instant death. And of course you can't get XP from helping other people kill stuff if they're not in your group... we couldn't have THAT, now could we?

    Can't say that I'm looking forward to put the screeching halt on the MSQ to go level RDM because apparently that's what everyone wants you to be in Eureka, the one job I've yet to do.

    So anyways, in the midst of this and NM pops..... and yay, they use that same credit system that FATEs and Hunts use, where you shout for invites....and get none. You throw whatever spells you have on it, and ... wow, I'm rocking that awesome 17XP gains.

    Could you please stop pretending that solo doesn't exist? I mean seriously. Would it have killed you to let the first 5 levels be reasonably solo-able? I don't call getting 50 out of 1000 per nearly 60 second kill reasonable. And that's just for the FIRST level. Who Knows What it'd be for higher levels.

    In a game that has made leaps and bounds towards accessibility and solo-friendliness, now we have Eureka which takes 2 steps backwards towards the "group or don't do anything period" kind of approach that I used to hate about yesteryear's MMOs.

    I would just skip Eureka.... except, you know, I need it for the MSQ apparently. Which requires 335 and of course, Lid/Continuum only drop 330 gear last I checked? Or was that 325? I forget. Either way I don't remember it being 335.

    So yay I get to feel like a newbie that nobody wants because I just happened to come late. Such an awesome feeling, sitting in LFG.

    This was one of the very reasons I quit FFXI more than once. Never in a million years I thought I'd ever face being tempted to do the same in XIV all games.
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    Last edited by Maeka; 05-23-2018 at 03:19 AM.

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    Souji Hanamura
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    The mendacity gear (which can be gained simply from doing expert dungeons and hunts and I believe even PotD at level 70), is 360. You don't have to touch Eureka if you don't want to.
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    Mendacity takes forever to get. 450 max per week, means 1 accessory per week and 2 weeks for any other gear.

    As for raids... I don't really enjoy the raiding environment. I dipped my toes into it with Deltascape and didn't really enjoy it very much at times.

    EDIT: Or is it 420 max per week? If so then some pieces take THREE weeks to get, depending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Mendacity takes forever to get.
    450 per week, but creation is not capped, and it's at ilvl 330. While time seems to be a concern for you so I won't suggest that you worry about hunt tomes to upgrade the creation gear, and you'd prefer not to touch raids so you won't get the Rabanastre coins to upgrade, you still might be able to get 335 with a combo of basic creation gear with 1-2 mendacity items.

    Especially if you do get 1 or 2 pieces of Eureka gear (although I do warn you that it'll take a good 5-7 levels to really get to the point where you can get the crystals you need quickly, so Eureka may not be any more 'fast' than doing the tomestone mix).

    You could also look at the MB for some of the crafted 350 gear. I was able to get some stuff for one of my alt classes relatively cheaply the other night, although at the moment the prices may be going up because of the trade-ins.

    I'm not trying to tell you that you're wrong, because most of us agree that Eureka is grindy as hell, and not well-thought-out in terms of keeping content relevant. I'm just trying to help you find alternative methods that will help you not be so frustrated. However, it's worth noting that this is patch day, so most people are probably checking out the new stuff instead of jumping into Eureka. However, I know most people tend to think they'll have burned through the new stuff in a day or two, so maybe there will be more folks there after a while?
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    do sigma normal, it gives full ilvl 350 stuff
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    Cirgellon Dailemont
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    They have had this happening since level 50. There have always been instances where you had to gear up more than what quest reaards would give in krder to join them. You don't see it much if you aren't playing at level cap though. I remember having to do that at 50 and 60.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Honest question, how long have you been playing? Because most players would be at around ilv340 minimum by now and is easy enough to be at that point.
    Sigma Normal like some have said is an option as there is no weekly lock. Just get friends together and run it.
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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Sounds like someone here has been playing everything undergeared for awhile now (parties must love you)... I'm not raider (not enough time) but I had already outgeared the eureka gears before I even got eureka gear...
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Lol you know there are plenty legitimate gripes about Eureka, this is not one of them.

    Creation gear is 330, and can be upgraded to 340. You just don't know what you're doing apparently.
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    Also Omega 4 normal is easier them all alexander 4 normal. So I don't get your point again. Susano ex gives you weapon lv 320 and it''s easier than all arr primals. Yes if you do arr primals synced they are way hard than susy and lak ex. Common guy/girl the omega 4 normal is the easiest thing on the game. Even Titan hard is harder.
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    Last edited by The_Promised; 05-23-2018 at 04:16 AM.

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