Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 43
  1. #1
    Player
    Vaiolette's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    32
    Character
    Vaiolette Ashryver
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80

    [SPOILER] I think the writing for how we react in movies needs to be improved.

    I like to begin by saying what a triumph this latest update has been when it comes to writing and story! So much has happened and I am still trying to come to terms with everything that has happened! I felt a genuine sense of dread throughout the story as I knew treachery would rear its head, and I was not disappointed!

    HOWEVER, there is an instance when the writing has completely failed, and this is a consistent theme since the beginning of the game, highlighted now that the other aspect of the writing has elevated, is the Warrior of Light's inaction within the movies!

    I think I speak for most people when I say we ALL wanted to KILL Asahi in THAT moment. But what do the writers write us to do~? We stand idly and WATCH as he does something which I know no person would allow.

    I think this is a failure in writing, because as a role play, we are torn from the story because our medium is NOT doing what we want them to do, we have NO input on what happens, at all! I think the warrior of light should ALWAYS be actively making the best choices within these story scenes. In this example, At LEAST destroy his weapon or restrain him in some way!

    I would very much like it if the writers can write us to be much more active during movies, because I personally find it inexcusable that we are still nodding and glaring after 2 new additions to this game! This is my suggestion, in that moment after besting the trial, I hated the writers of Final Fantasy XIV.
    (7)

  2. #2
    Player Theodric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    10,051
    Character
    Matthieu Desrosiers
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Asahi was ultimately reponsible for the sexual, emotional and physical abuse that Yotsuyu suffered throughout her life. From a narrative perspective, nobody had a greater claim to vengeance than her when it comes to Asahi. So it was a very satisfying conclusion to the arc - and much more solid than the Warrior of Light putting him down.

    The Warrior of Light does not need to personally end the lives of every antagonist or villain that enters the plot. Now, if your concern is that the Warrior of Light should have intervened and prevented Asahi from shooting Yotsuyu...bear in mind that the Warrior of Light was likely physically and emotionally exhausted about an intense battle. That easily justifies the delayed reaction...as well as accounting for genuine surprise that Asahi would return after seemingly fleeing earlier.

    It's also very likely that Yotsuyu was already dying at that point...and even if she was not, she was much too damaged and broken to ever live a normal life no matter how much she or others may have wished for 'Tsuyu' to prevail. On some level, she seemed to expect Asahi's treachery - as evidenced by her stating that she saved the last of her strength for him.
    (15)
    Last edited by Theodric; 05-23-2018 at 03:37 PM.

  3. #3
    Player
    Belhi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    3,016
    Character
    J'talhdi Belhi
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Frankly Asahi had a point. Attacking him would be a full blown act of war. Ironically because it was Yotsuyu who killed him, not us, it gave Maximo the position to revive the peace talks and still be true to the law of Garlemald. Plus beyond taunting us, he was well within his rights to put a bullet in her. She summoned a primal. That isn't something that even our friendly nations are likely to just let slide. You attack him there you all but destroy any chance for peace and even with the WoL at their best that means a lot of allies will die.

    There are times where I kind of wish my character at least presented emotion differently in those cutscenes but in that specific case there was a very valid reason for it. There are times when acting just off emotion would get a lot of people killed. Asahi played his game well and it only shot him in the foot when he failed to realise his sister wasn't dead yet.

    That said, part of me wanted to survive to the point when he came to realise that Zenos frankly doesn't give a rats ass about him.

    I will say after meeting the whole family, Yotsuyu and her twisted hatred makes a lot more sense.
    (15)
    Last edited by Belhi; 05-23-2018 at 03:39 PM.

  4. #4
    Player
    swiss_Momo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    535
    Character
    Noel Maimhov
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Lalafell restrictions, please understand #PotatosWereAMistake

    that said, I would've also loved to have a different reaction during that moment, and if only by being able to say something like "oh, if you consider the peace treaty to be already broken anyway, then I can brutally slaughter you without repercussions now" to Asahi
    (3)

  5. #5
    Player
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    496
    I just want my character to do more action in action scenes instead of just standing there. Let me actually do stuff in the scenes.
    (8)

  6. #6
    Player
    gumas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    1,313
    Character
    Rawon Special
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Let me actually do stuff in the scenes
    this, 90% of the time our character only do surprised emote, leave it to me emote, down on knee emote, nod and smile emote, nothing else. i never see my char do any action skill like basic attack or stuff
    (8)

  7. #7
    Player Theodric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    10,051
    Character
    Matthieu Desrosiers
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    The 'action sequences' are in the various raids, dungeons, solo duties and trials. Cut-scenes are limited to an extent but it's unreasonable, time consuming and no doubt very expensive to account for every possible attack animation across every possible race, class, gender and appearance combination.
    (8)

  8. #8
    Player
    Ntol's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    68
    Character
    Kurnous Ntol
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by swiss_Momo View Post
    Lalafell restrictions, please understand #PotatosWereAMistake

    that said, I would've also loved to have a different reaction during that moment, and if only by being able to say something like "oh, if you consider the peace treaty to be already broken anyway, then I can brutally slaughter you without repercussions now" to Asahi
    That´s exactly what I thought. I was like: "So.... you basically admitted the only thing preventing me from bashing your skull to a pulp no longer is in effect?" *cracks knuckles*

    Other than that I too was severely disappointed with my character staring helpless as Asahi shot. I mean, the first shot caught us by surprise, but the next one? At least put yourself between them or something.
    (2)

  9. #9
    Player
    Vaiolette's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    32
    Character
    Vaiolette Ashryver
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    nobody had a greater claim to vengeance than her when it comes to Asahi. So it was a very satisfying conclusion to the arc - and much more solid than the Warrior of Light putting him down.

    Now, if your concern is that the Warrior of Light should have intervened and prevented Asahi from shooting Yotsuyu...bear in mind that the Warrior of Light was likely physically and emotionally exhausted about an intense battle.
    .
    I understand that! However, if that were the case, and we were exhausted, the scene did NOT show it. My point is that while Yotsuyu deserves her vengeance, we should've never been written in a way to just watch someone be slaughtered like a dog a few meters from us~

    I mean, we've bested much, MUCH stronger enemies before, so it is very unlikely that we'd be so exhausted to do that. Regardless, I do not disagree with you, but I hope you understand what I mean when I say showing us standing impotently like that is just bad.
    (4)

  10. 05-23-2018 10:22 PM

  11. #10
    Player
    TheCookieGod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Posts
    10
    Character
    Elariel Balath
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    I agree that WoL needs to be more animated during cutscenes. It's incredibly jarring at times, and this particular case was one of them. That it ended up working out for the best for the negotiations that the WoL did not interfere is irrelevant. I realize it's the limitations of telling a story in an MMO, but even doing as much as drawing my weapon and levelling it at Asahi and then having him go into his 'if you kill me, negotations will fall apart' speech, as flimsy an excuse as that was given that negotiations had already failed by his own admission, would have better than the WoL just standing with their hands at their sides in idle animation. Just something more to show off that they're not okay with what's happening beyond the frowny face.
    (2)

Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 ... LastLast