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    Ayasaki128's Avatar
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    Seiji Kyoshiro
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    Black mage spell suggestion

    Spell: Relines
    Cooldown: 90 min
    Description: Realocate Ley Lines to your current position, duration of Ley Lines will not be renewed
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    Or how about we just have Leylines and Between the Lines in the same button, for a start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Or how about we just have Leylines and Between the Lines in the same button, for a start?
    Exactly what I thought.

    I'd personally also like them to reduce Ley Line CD to 60sec to it aligns with more buff. (With duration reduction to compensate obviously)
    With a lower CD it would also help new BLM a tiny bit since a half used Ley Line due to poor timing would have less of a negative impact.
    I mean, asking someone to not move for 30sec... 15-20sec is doable but 30sec... I know this is why we have between the lines but still.

    I also think it would be more fun to have it on a shorter CD. I like using Ley Line
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    I also have the opinion that enochian (the actual ability/button) is largely pointless and they should just replace it with a trait at this point. Everything is tied to AF/UI now anyway, and you have to try really hard to drop either of them these days. As it currently stands Enochian is just extra fluff to clip the gcd in your opener, because reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    I also have the opinion that enochian (the actual ability/button) is largely pointless and they should just replace it with a trait at this point. Everything is tied to AF/UI now anyway, and you have to try really hard to drop either of them these days. As it currently stands Enochian is just extra fluff to clip the gcd in your opener, because reasons.
    What would be nice would be to add a new effect to enochian. Even something as small as refresh AF/UI would make it a nice tool
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    Leon Reddas
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    If Enochian became a trait then I would honestly feel that BLM would become pretty brain dead. You'd just do your rotations as normal without having to worry about Eno dropping and only keeping up your Astral/Umbral status to switch between the elements, that's it, and then potentially getting a free Foul for doing nothing after 30secs. Eno like several other temporary buffs (like Dreadwyrm Trance, Hotshot, Straight Arrow etc) can effect your damage too much to be giving a free pass as a trait.

    If you use Between the Lines, why would you need to rewrite your Leylines?
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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    If Enochian became a trait then I would honestly feel that BLM would become pretty brain dead. You'd just do your rotations as normal without having to worry about Eno dropping and only keeping up your Astral/Umbral status to switch between the elements, that's it, and then potentially getting a free Foul for doing nothing after 30secs. Eno like several other temporary buffs (like Dreadwyrm Trance, Hotshot, Straight Arrow etc) can effect your damage too much to be giving a free pass as a trait.

    If you use Between the Lines, why would you need to rewrite your Leylines?
    Eno's already pretty braindead.

    And you can't BTL into a Leylines that got randomly targeted / party member dragged a death zone onto.
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    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    You'd just do your rotations as normal without having to worry about Eno dropping and only keeping up your Astral/Umbral status
    That's literally what you do right now. Enochian is dependent on you keeping up AF/UI. If those drop, enochian drops. You can't have one without the other, as such it makes the single button press in an encounter largely pointless and it should just become a trait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    snip .
    That still doesn't solve the Foul issue. You could have Eno active for 30secs and obtain your Foul, but even if you drop AF/UI you would still have Foul available in your stock. So let's say you have Eno has a trait, again you could get a free Foul every 30secs even if you don't do anything. Keeping up your AF/UI is part of your rotation and getting out the most damage when you have those windows open to do it. Most jobs have buffs that you would spent time keeping active to maximize DPS output, and all can be rewarded by competing their rotation, BLM is no different.
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    Last edited by Kurando; 05-14-2018 at 07:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    That still doesn't solve the Foul issue. You could have Eno active for 30secs and obtain your Foul, but even if you drop AF/UI you would still have Foul available in your stock. So let's say you have Eno has a trait, again you could get a free Foul every 30secs even if you don't do anything. Keeping up your AF/UI is part of your rotation and getting out the most damage when you have those windows open to do it. Most jobs have buffs that you would spent time keeping active to maximize DPS output, and all can be rewarded by competing their rotation, BLM is no different.
    No. You wouldn't gain timer without being in AF/UI. Exactly how it works now.
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