New alliance loot rules discussion

[Alusan_Ilossa]

The only problem with this, though, is many people have a comfort job that they main. For me, I love tanking, because being a meat shield makes me happy. I love the way tank classes feel and operate, and I want to be able to be the best tank I can for my party. When someone has the same opportunity as I do to get tank gear, when most of the time they don't play tank, it just puts me behind on being optimal, and makes it harder for me to run as a benefit to my party/alliance. There's no real benefit to having the Greed-only rule, except to give players who may never use the gear the same opportunity as the people who rely on it to be better to get it.

[hynaku]

How it is now won't step foot in alliance raid. Already have very hard time winning one item that I needed and now they make it even harder. No thanks if they change it back then I will run them again.

[geekgirl101]

Why was this even a thing? I don't get it! I now can't get upgrades anymore because everyone is greeding even when they don't have that job unlocked. Thanks SE, you've ruined alliance raiding.

[Xenos88]

Honestly I hate the new loot rule system. I've ran the new alliance raid and got beat a few times for the drg gear meanwhile I was the only drg in that party. They really need to go back to utilizing the old system in loot drops. If you want the particular gear for a role then play that role its not a hard concept to grasp.

[Whanext]

This greed only decision is pretty dumb. It really has no positive outcome. I have no idea why they made this change.

[Blanchimont]

This greed only decision is pretty dumb. It really has no positive outcome. I have no idea why they made this change.

By making it harder to get loot, people will have to run the dungeon more times. That's the only reason I can think of. It makes the numbers look good for them.

[TyrTry]

I'm in the ballpark of "If you want it for that class, play that class."

And getting rid of the "Need" option so that people can level their alts makes zero sense to me. Aren't they your alts for a reason?

If you are leveling your main class, then getting rid of the Need option is more of a hindrance than a ally.

I know that some classes got the short end of the stick previously, but the most you would compete with was 3 or 4 out of 8 people. Now you may (not always the case) compete with all 8.

I haven't run the newest raid yet. I'm running it tonight with friends. We specifically made a alliance night so we could get any gear that we needed (to replace the lose of Need).

I'm sure if you ask, people will be generous enough to Pass. And if not, oh well. Try again. Not everyone is a pain in the butt. Most are rather genuine.

[TyrTry]

By making it harder to get loot, people will have to run the dungeon more times. That's the only reason I can think of. It makes the numbers look good for them.

I can certainly see that as one aspect. There is already enough reasons as it is to run a dungeon 5,000 times (that healer hat, tank piece, dragoon foot, etc.). I still remember leveling my dragoon and running Rabanasty at least 21 times to get the head piece (call me crazy I know). Hashbrown still gives me PTSD.

[TyrTry]

Why was this even a thing? I don't get it! I now can't get upgrades anymore because everyone is greeding even when they don't have that job unlocked. Thanks SE, you've ruined alliance raiding.

People are still going to have to compete against the "One-Item a week" lock. So that should hopefully help with your endeavor to upgrade. Maybe...

[Optee]

I have an alt character that is only a healer, I have tried to gear her up fairly but just now I ran the older 24 man Rabanaster for gear she could use so that she could unlock Sigmascape. 2 healer upgrades drop, I ask the party to please allow me to have them as they are direct upgrades that I could wear right at this moment. I roll low and do not get either and still am locked out of Sigmascape. How is this fair for new players who will have to go through this same experience? The upgrades dropped. I asked kindly and not harshly but still was unable to obtain the gear. I literally cannot progress forward on this alt character. It's insanely frustrating to see the gear just go away like that because I had a 1/8 change to obtain it even after the other healer said, they didn't need it. Is this what new players are going to have to look forward to? Fighting others for gear to simply move forward? How is this the proposed catch up mechanic that was so widely boasted?