Thread: 4.3 is amazing

Yeah, colour me completely unimpressed with 4.3.

Opinions vary, but let's say for the sake of argument the MSQ is AAA. Let's say that Ridorana is a blast, and an upgrade in every way over Rabanastre, as well as the new Trial and Dungeon. So what? The MSQ is a one-off, and the Raid / Trial / Dungeon will be old hat within a couple of weeks, because they're shallow pieces of content that are essentially recycled, repainted versions of previous shallow content.

So too with the Namazu Tribe (again, even if the storyline is great, the turn-in quests are recycled versions of Ixal and Moogles), and the Doman Enclave, which is basically just a new NPC to sell things to that pays you a bit more than other NPCs do (I hate to think of the long-term effects this place will have on inflation...).

Where's the meat? Where's the long-term content that doesn't feel stale within two weeks' time? And how on earth are people happy with yet another patch day that features absolutely nothing really new?

Originally Posted by Vhailor

Yeah, colour me completely unimpressed with 4.3.

Opinions vary, but let's say for the sake of argument the MSQ is AAA. Let's say that Ridorana is a blast, and an upgrade in every way over Rabanastre, as well as the new Trial and Dungeon. So what? The MSQ is a one-off, and the Raid / Trial / Dungeon will be old hat within a couple of weeks, because they're shallow pieces of content that are essentially recycled, repainted versions of previous shallow content.

So too with the Namazu Tribe (again, even if the storyline is great, the turn-in quests are recycled versions of Ixal and Moogles), and the Doman Enclave, which is basically just a new NPC to sell things to that pays you a bit more than other NPCs do (I hate to think of the long-term effects this place will have on inflation...).

Where's the meat? Where's the long-term content that doesn't feel stale within two weeks' time? And how on earth are people happy with yet another patch day that features absolutely nothing really new?

I'm guessing you've played for awhile. I'd wager that'd you've played MMO's in general.

What did you expect? It's how MMOs work. Sure, maybe someday some MMO will find some magical formula in which to make content not become stale and grindy within a couple of weeks. It's not going to be this MMO. Yoshi-P's made it clear that the team does not have time/resources/inclination to really rock the boat gameplay wise. Honestly, aside from creating all new content every couple weeks, which is obviously infeasible, there's not much any current MMO system can do to keep content from being stale after awhile.

Not saying your complaints are without merit. It's just that the complaints are levied at the general known weakness of the genre.

Originally Posted by Vhailor

Where's the meat? Where's the long-term content that doesn't feel stale within two weeks' time? And how on earth are people happy with yet another patch day that features absolutely nothing really new?

Oh I dunno, maybe some of us actually enjoy the consistent additions to the progression routes we're interested in. Not all of us are bored within a fortnight. Not all of us are unreasonable enough to think that content is unworthy unless it can hold our daily undivided attention for several months without a hiccup. Some content is designed to be short-lived, some isn't. And sometimes this sort of thing is down to personal preference. Many of the things you might be bored of are the very things others are excited about.

Originally Posted by Asiragan

You do realise that it can be said the other way around, right?
That some of us have seen enough of this same "rinse and repeat" cycle that the dev feed us since years.

Welcome to playing mmos. If a formula works the devs are not going to switch it up too much in a short space of time. Every remotely successful mmo does this. Yes, even WoW. In fact WoW is far more guilty of not providing new types of content than XIV. For over a decade the vast majority of WoW's patch content was aimed only at raiders. Players are spoiled for choice in this game and most don't even know it.

Originally Posted by Penthea

Welcome to playing mmos. If a formula works the devs are not going to switch it up too much in a short space of time. Every remotely successful mmo does this. Yes, even WoW. In fact WoW is far more guilty of not providing new types of content than XIV. For over a decade the vast majority of WoW's patch content was aimed only at raiders. Players are spoiled for choice in this game and most don't even know it.

Sure, I did quit Wow for a reason after all.
But to say that Wow is the same from an expansion to an other is not true. At all.

And on this, FFXIV fail absolutly, since SB is just a reskin of heawensward. There is no new feature at all (Well, there IS swimming, but let's be serious here).

And even Wow players got bored of the formula when Warlords came out, Blizzard had to innovate for Legion.

But I really don't like the way you say most people are spoiled, just like the other post that said to an other player that he would never feel satisfied. It belitlle to much the rising concern for the game.
Especially when we had better during the 2.x patch cycle (just go look at the patch note, see for yourself).

The Msq can be done in a hour, same for the 24 raid. The dungeon ? 30mn top. What is left to do with the patch after that?
Some daylies, and weekly locked content? Maybe some crafting ? Kinda sad, I say.
It's especially sad when you heard your team mates saying, after barely 24 hours of patch, "Patch's done, now waiting for 3.35". Is this something I should really heard one day after the patch? Really, I don't think so.

Compared to that, the Argus patch, or the broken shore patch are absolutly massive. Sure, that's the same formula. But the patch give the players new zones, and new stuff to do. Even few improvement here and there.

And that's coming from someone who really dislike what Wow have become. Plus, it's not because it's worse elsewhere that here is good either.

So, yeah. The game is great when you start it, and still have stuff to do. But when you have done most of it, and waiting for the next patch like a guy in the desert waiting for the rain, you get a little deseperate when you get a few drops.

I lost hope for 4.x content-wise, I'll wait for 5.0 anxiously, wishing that they can shake things up.

Originally Posted by Luin

The answer is nothing, there will never be enough new content for you because you cant accept that they cant push out a new expac every 3 months.

To be fair, aside from Ultimate and Eureka, content wise the game, progression and availability of content has been exactly the same as ARR and HW. Clamoring for progressive content that is a daily activity that has been shaken up would be great. We've been collecting tomes and drop items from raids for three expansions. It would be a breath of fresh air to have something completely new. I see what you are saying in your response, but you must admit that there is a stale feeling. I enjoyed what was given, but wrapping up the present you gave me last year in new wrapping paper doesn't change the present.

I enjoyed the trial in the Main Quest and the end after, however it felt like up unto to that point that there were wayyyy too many cutscenes and very little time actually doing stuff so didn’t feel tas satisfying as previous patches and a bit unbalanced due to more watching than doing.

Also it took agggges to unlock the raid - the wine stuff just seemed pointless and I ran out of time so didn’t get to do it, alone or with my free company.

I also didn’t manage to unlock or do the new dungeon yet.