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  1. #81
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    Lukha's Avatar
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kradus View Post
    I feel like some of the replies here are a fair bit too harsh towards the development team, and that they're less likely to listen to us if we call them "lazy" or "incompetent" over a couple of sets. Surely there's a more constructive and mature way to express our desires?
    You start to get really frustrated when you're going on four years of a problem and the company has publically apologized and promised to work on it multiple times and yet keeps adding to the pile with no noticeable efforts to actually fix anything.
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  2. #82
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Just fail to see why we even have glamour restrictions.
    "It just looks wrong seing a tank in light clothing"... We can run around naked...
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  3. #83
    Player ShadowHunterrX's Avatar
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    Mivau Lawantal
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    And then you went and did exactly that.
    The fact remains that not everyone enjoys things catered to the 'male gaze' and options should be kept equal. Right now, they are not. As paying customers of a P2P game, we're entitled to voice our concerns, and some have even voted with their wallets and left outright. And then they gave us the bunny outfit. So maybe - maybe - this isn't just a Sisyphean struggle, as much as it sure feels like it.
    I only speak for myself. The reason for saying *most people dont care* is very simpel. The topic isnt big and full of yea sayers, if there is a nay sayer he/she will shoot down and some yea sayers are being disrespectfull to the devs. Which is funny for people who are saying *entitled to voice our concerns*.

    I dont really care about sexy clothes or male gaze ( Calimero behavior) ... we are talking about pixels.

    They are working on it. Be patience and respectfull. But the more you guys make these topics... it's no more *voice concerns* but will be more called whi....
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    Last edited by ShadowHunterrX; 05-27-2018 at 10:52 PM.

  4. #84
    Player illgot's Avatar
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    Tanuki Crash
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Just fail to see why we even have glamour restrictions.
    "It just looks wrong seing a tank in light clothing"... We can run around naked...
    I agree, especially when it comes to crafting/gathering glams or blocking similarly dressed jobs like casters and healers or ninjas and monks, or any tank class.
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  5. #85
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowHunterrX View Post
    They are working on it.
    Four years for a gender-unlocked version of the bunny outfit. How long did it take them to unlock the sailor outfits? :thinking:
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  6. #86
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowHunterrX View Post

    They are working on it. Be patience and respectfull. But the more you guys make these topics... it's no more *voice concerns* but will be more called whi....
    The male bunny outfit was only made because people kept asking for it. If people do not ask, do not make topics, do not show ~any~ interest or desire in something and sit quietly hoping one day it'll just manifest itself...it won't. Until the day the devs become mind readers, at least.

    Had a male only outfit been the lone crafting set when the patch went live, do you think people would have accepted it without complaints?
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    Last edited by Rokke; 05-28-2018 at 01:26 AM.

  7. #87
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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowHunterrX View Post
    They are working on it. Be patience and respectfull. But the more you guys make these topics... it's no more *voice concerns* but will be more called whi....
    From my viewpoint, as someone who played before the glamour system or Mog Shop even existed, SE is not working on it. They will throw us bones here and there if we get a little too loud. They will finally cave under four year's worth of consistent pressure for one outfit. But they will not do what's necessary to make things equal. Why? We can only speculate. But from a long-time customer's perspective I am tired of being second to people who play a different gender. I'm also not willing to accept that limitation's on men's fashion prohibit us from having the same quantity of options, let alone quality. It's biased bs and I am sick of it.

    Politeness hasn't really gotten us anywhere at this point- we got mealy-mouthed "please look forward to it" and "we're working on it" responses for years with little to no real action. I'm still being civil, well within the forum's etiquette guidelines. But I'm not going to nicely wait and hope after four years of being shafted. People have posted examples of what they want to see, have asked pretty please to not keep releasing female-only gear with no male equivalent, have asked that SE be egalitarian with locking gear by gender if they can't make things work for everyone. But it's fallen of deaf ears. Expressing frustration is only natural at this point.
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    Last edited by Hestzhyen; 05-28-2018 at 02:13 AM.

  8. #88
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    Jaibamon's Avatar
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    Jaiba Mon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Reaper Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Just fail to see why we even have glamour restrictions.
    "It just looks wrong seing a tank in light clothing"... We can run around naked...
    Exactly, if is about immersion, that thing has been already lost long time ago, as one can see tanks in bikinis and Warriors of Light wearing Moogle suits.

    But one thing is glamour restrictions (as I don't like it either) and gender locked gear. I just want a balanced amount of gear available for the both genders.
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  9. #89
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    Jaiba Mon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Reaper Lv 86
    The sailor outfit is already unlocked, as a male character I can wear it. I think you mean the Spring dress, which is funny because there is already a male version of it (Hildibrand wears it in one cutscene).
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  10. #90
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    This should not be shocking to anyone anymore. Their latent sexism doesn't shock me anymore as I've sadly gotten used to it. SE has always shunned the people who play male characters in a variety of ways. Glamour being one issue. SE panders a lot to females and those who play female characters in game and as such they have a lot female exclusive stuff more than males. I'm shocked we even got the bunny suits after all this time. Probably due to a multitude of people complaining and SE had no choice but to cave in to the demands. They probably wasn't gonna ever make male bunny suits, but due to overwhelming pressure they caved.



    If you complain enough, and in large numbers...SE will give you what you want. This game panders a lot. Anymore pandering and this game will become a Sim. lol.
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