Revelations from Patch 4.3

[Remedi]

While I liked the HoH revelations:

I have to say to the Onishishu. GOOD JOB SO FAR GUYS. For a secret organization that wants to avoid the errors of Allag they really are doing it great

as for our dear inspector.

Well suppose that this will settle the rumors about Yojimbo "Jim" for friends beign an automaton. He's a man.....of questionable taste, but a man nonetheless and I expect Greg and him meeting sooner or later

[ObsidianFire]

Heaven on High

Yup. It looks like Heaven-on-High is the first post-Allagan structure we've come across. It also shows us how widespread the Allagans got. The Crystal Tower puts Salina over in Mor Dhona when it happens, but there's people who knew her after the 4th Umbral Calamity in Othard.

I am kinda wondering about the Onishishu we see in Yanxia now. They're the ones responsible for the Fox FATEs there. Although given that the Onishishu have been messing with Allgan stuff for probably longer then anyone else, that might not be too surprising. I am laughing about how similar and yet different the Onishishu are from the Ironworks. It sounds like they want to do the same thing (looking for the knowlege of the Allagans), but are doing it in very different ways. The Onishishu are more then fine with you and other people challenging Heaven-on-High, while the Ironworks would really like no one to ever go into Crystal Tower again in the future. I find it an interesting dichotomy.

[Rocl]

Heaven on High

I am kinda wondering about the Onishishu we see in Yanxia now. They're the ones responsible for the Fox FATEs there

Eh? I think you might be mistaken about this?

Aren't those onmyoji and not onishishu?

[KageTokage]

Regarding HoH

I can't help but wonder if they're laying the groundwork for us to return to Hingashi at some point with revelation that the Allagans had been operating in the region.

I'm also curious as to what the Onishushu leader's name was, considering that they randomly dropped another FFIII reference with him mentioning a Desch and all.

Lastly, I don't know if I missed something, but that little bit where they zoomed in on Kyusei's devious smirk makes me feel like he has alterior motives, particularly when they did it right after Rasho got done saying he was just trying to test us.

[Remedi]

Oh definitively we'll be back maybe not in 5.0 but we will

[Iscah]

Heaven-on-High's plot seemed very underwhelming to me.

Here's this mysterious person that Rasho is working with, but doesn't trust, and he's taking orders from some snarling demon thing up in the tower.... except actually hey, it's all good and we're from a noble secret society! Oh, and have this emotional hologram recording of some people you haven't met or had any reason to care about.

Unless it's setting up for something interesting later, it seems very disjointed and unsatisfying. But being a sidequest I'm not sure it'll tie back into MSQ easily either.

Then again, PotD 50-100 was very strange as well - entirely a crossover with one of their other games? And some things that seemed like lorebuilding hints but were probably just nods to the other game.

Was there additional plot/cutscenes in PotD beyond floor 100?

[Alleo]

HoH impressions:

Well its there...I found it medicore at best. Again its something about Allagans..not that a lot of things from the past or that went wrong are either Allagans or Ascians..so not that interesting imo. The scene at the tree is a bit strange too. I dont know these people so I did not really feel anything about the sacrifice and I was more thinking about "wow the tree is not a tree at all.."

Also no real lore reason why we got help from our animal friends either..

Honestly PotD had a way better story because we had ties with the people in this...

[KageTokage]

I feel like HoH is trying to set something up for the future, whereas PotD was more about giving a matter from the past some true closure.

[Remedi]

While we had ties to ONE ppl

I feel like we had no real explanation to anything in PotD. As a non tactics ogre player I had to see who Nybeth was and why he was so fixated to eternal life, the plot in PotD never really gave any explanation to the character and I'm afraid I'll write Edda's story as pointless. Her story finished with Tam-tara and they only brought her back for a cameo at best.
We had no explanation on how Nybeth crossed here, no proper introduction to his character, the recurring character was a cameo at best and worst of all we had no real explanation on the place itself, was it gelmorrean? was it older? No, niet nisba, nothing, they didn't even acknowledged the existance of lower floors for what I remember.
It wasn't anything like this with HoH imho, we had answers about everything introduced with the system, the only difference is that the story ended now and not after 4 months or so that imho is what really makes it feels like it was meatier, we had more times to make suppositions on what is happening, but in the end it was just a conceled tactis ogre collaboration and nothing more (incidentally it's another yasumi matsuno game, which might tell us something).
Anyway this are the reason of why, when I stop myself in thinking about the implications of the story, that I feel HoH is better than PoTD
And hey at least they acknowledged that there are more than 30 floors, that's a plus

[Iscah]

Heaven-on-High and "aetherpool" gear

It seemed odd at the beginning - and even odder thinking back on it - that this apparently disconnected-from-PotD dungeon has the same "aetherpool" gear (by name as well as appearance) that was described there as being created by Padjali enchantments, and here apparently by some kind of Allagan-inspired technology. What's the link? Are they in contact? Is E-Una-Kotor not giving us the full story either?