Thread: Revelations from Patch 4.3

Originally Posted by Remedi

re: 24 man raid

In the prima vista they tell you that apparently the explosion was created by ramza fighting the brother of construct 7

Thanks for the info. Seems that I need to talk to them again.

But since Ramza is a "Garlean" (I mean "our" Ramza got his name from him right?) that kinda implies that maybe some of the machines and things they created went bad and thus they ended themselves?

Ugh its really not that good to have such a big span between the stories, I kinda start to forget stuff.

Edit: So I went back to the ship and read a bit. Ramza was part of Ivalice but somehow he seemed to had angered the church there. Did he start the fight on his own will because he found out something bad or was it a accident? Kinda curious how that will go. Anyway that kinda shows that a state has killed itself again through bad technology use. Also its interesting how one of the NPCs says that Garlemald was founded by 7 tribes so any of those tribes could be from Ivalice so not all of Garlemald is from there.

At the same time I am still curious how people so advanced needed other tribes to survive. Was it because they had nothing left to built on? And how big was their tribe if the whole nation had to leave Gog behind? (I mean its huge) Could it be that they went on their own way and only a small amount of people went to the now Garlean territory? And wouldnt that mean that there exist even more races with Ivalice "blood" in them?

But I found some parts strange:

It was said by an NPC that Dalmasca was ruled for nearly 1000 years and destroyed 30 ago by Garlemald (and that Rabanastre was even older) and that the lighthouse was used for centuries by people of Dalmasca but that they just found the ruins left and used it as a lighthouse..how exactly would that go in hand with Ivalice people being more direct ancestors of Garlemald? Garlemald itself was founded 50 years ago. So the explosion itself and leaving Gog behind must have happened at least over 100 years ago if not more (since she talks about more than one century). How was it then that these people could not use all their knowledge of the old technology to built a new nation and needed so much time and other tribes?

A NPC talks how Gogs people maybe being anchestors of Garlean means that this is their home but is it really? Again if the numbers are correct Gog existed quite a while ago and Garlemald itself was founded by 7 different tribes and it seems only one was from Ivalice. How would that give them the right to call it home? I mean inbetween that other folks lived and used it and who knows if not another race was there before them. And Dalmasca itself seems to have been in one hand a really long time so its also not their home.


Anyway it seems that Dalmasca existed free from Ivalice for nearly 1000 years under one dynasty and next to that there was a time where Ivalice people lived and built Gog. Which was destroyed by Ramza in a battle (thus destroyed from someone of their own race) and they leave and people from Dalmasca start to use it as a lighthouse for centuries until Garlemald destroys Dalmasca 30 years ago. Also the original Gog folk seems to then have lived a bit of time ago and thus some of them may be part of Garlemald anchestors but since they are 7 tribes its only a small part of it. And like that one NPC said, if you get back in time you will probably find out that more and more tribes/races were once related to another and thus maybe have one common anchestor.

I hope I took it the right way? Its some nice information but I will see how they will prove anything since it was quite some time ago.