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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Well we learned quite a while ago there was an area that during the conquest of Orthad showed Solus the damage to the world that a primal could cause and lead to Garlemald's stunch anti primal viewpoint. The burn is the obvious sight.

    As for Bozja, I got the impression it was a bit closer to Ilsibard and frankly I imagine its not much more than a crater unless they have rebuilt it. The entire town was obliterated.
    According to the snippet of timeline from the lorebook cited in this thread, Bozja was a Garlean city in Othard, primarily commercial sector.

    I do wish they would at least tease us with whether or not the Burn is supposed to be what's left of Bozja. >.>; It would fit in my eyes that part of the effort to censor the news of the accident would be for imperial censors to sell off the story as "eikons did it those dang savages".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyera View Post
    According to the snippet of timeline from the lorebook cited in this thread, Bozja was a Garlean city in Othard, primarily commercial sector.

    I do wish they would at least tease us with whether or not the Burn is supposed to be what's left of Bozja. >.>; It would fit in my eyes that part of the effort to censor the news of the accident would be for imperial censors to sell off the story as "eikons did it those dang savages".
    Yeah I kinda do have the feeling that all the "we do this because eikons" part is just a cover up or only part of what was happening. They did see primals in Othard but even Alexander did not do anything at all to the landscape. How long was this summon out or how strong was it that it leaves such utter destruction?
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
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    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyera View Post
    According to the snippet of timeline from the lorebook cited in this thread, Bozja was a Garlean city in Othard, primarily commercial sector.

    I do wish they would at least tease us with whether or not the Burn is supposed to be what's left of Bozja. >.>; It would fit in my eyes that part of the effort to censor the news of the accident would be for imperial censors to sell off the story as "eikons did it those dang savages".
    The Burn is way too big to be Bozja. The city was destroyed yes but the Burn is about the size of Doma. Its a huge area.

    I might be wrong but I always suspected Bozja was somewhere between the border of Ilsbard and Othard which would probably be north of the Burn. South of the Burn is almost certainly the areas like Rabanastre. As a trade hub I imagined it having a position similar to Ala Mhigo has for Eorzea.
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    I hope they give "Shadowhunter" the nickname "The Burned Man" I'm getting Fallout 3 vibes seeing him again.

    So basically the Doma arc is done, so I wonder what the next two patches will be about, our eventual plan to go to Garlemald? After binging Fallout 4 I'd like to see Square try out some kind of dystopian wasteland, Garleans using territories to try out weapons. Eldritch abominations roaming the wastes. Feral hyur, Lala, etc running around.

    I think the 24 man might actually tie in to the MSQ in a way, so much garlean stories to soak in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    Feral hyur, Lala, etc running around.
    Feral Lalas running around would be so adorable, wild hair and stuff.
    /pet
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    Bozja wasn't leveled by a primal. It was leveled during the Meteor Project when the Lunar Transmitter was turned on and Dalamud was "woken up" for the first time. While an entire town got obliterated, the area wasn't the size of a small country. Also, the Metor Project was started after Ala Mhigo was annexed by the Garleans. The Garleans would have found the Burn long before that when they were taking over Othard.
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    So I've been thinking, at the end of 4.0, we saw Elidibus reveal his face to Varis. Of course, we are all now assuming that this is Zenos, EXCEPT there is a bit of a snag there, Zenos' tomb hadn't been disturbed at this point (that happened sometime around 4.1, I suppose the Varis/Elidibus scene could have taken place around 4.1, but I don't think we've ever seen a previous patch overlap on another's time frame). So if Zenos' tomb hadn't been opened yet, who did Elidibus reveal himself as? Maybe Emperor Varis Zos Galvus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    So I've been thinking, at the end of 4.0, we saw Elidibus reveal his face to Varis. Of course, we are all now assuming that this is Zenos, EXCEPT there is a bit of a snag there, Zenos' tomb hadn't been disturbed at this point (that happened sometime around 4.1, I suppose the Varis/Elidibus scene could have taken place around 4.1, but I don't think we've ever seen a previous patch overlap on another's time frame). So if Zenos' tomb hadn't been opened yet, who did Elidibus reveal himself as? Maybe Emperor Varis Zos Galvus?
    We don't know when Zenos' body got out of the grave, but it seems to have happened fairly sshortly after being placed there in the firsst place. We already know that nobody checked if the body was still in the grave after it had been vandalized, so it could very likely have been long gone by that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    So I've been thinking, at the end of 4.0, we saw Elidibus reveal his face to Varis. Of course, we are all now assuming that this is Zenos, EXCEPT there is a bit of a snag there, Zenos' tomb hadn't been disturbed at this point (that happened sometime around 4.1, I suppose the Varis/Elidibus scene could have taken place around 4.1, but I don't think we've ever seen a previous patch overlap on another's time frame). So if Zenos' tomb hadn't been opened yet, who did Elidibus reveal himself as? Maybe Emperor Varis Zos Galvus?
    I have a theory on that
    I think that we are not a real person but an avatar of Hydaelyn itself and Elidubus is the same for zodiark he will also have the same face as us in this thoery. Ofc it's all made up with no relevance, but I'm simply going by the idea that whatever face was there it was enough to scare the emperor who till then was depitched as a rather hard to scare man. And yes it would've been hard at that time for Elidubus to already have taken hold of Zenos' body. That aside I ask to everyone to consdier this Hypothesys and see where I might be wrong since it's more than probable I missed something. Consider I'm simply going by hints they've given to us like the last archbishop words which seems to imply there's something different about us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    So I've been thinking, at the end of 4.0, we saw Elidibus reveal his face to Varis. Of course, we are all now assuming that this is Zenos, EXCEPT there is a bit of a snag there, Zenos' tomb hadn't been disturbed at this point (that happened sometime around 4.1, I suppose the Varis/Elidibus scene could have taken place around 4.1, but I don't think we've ever seen a previous patch overlap on another's time frame). So if Zenos' tomb hadn't been opened yet, who did Elidibus reveal himself as? Maybe Emperor Varis Zos Galvus?
    We dont know when all that happened. The disturbing of the grave did not mean that it was opened. As far as I can remember the people just wrote stuff on his grave but did not necessarily open it.

    I am not going to post the following under spoilers since its just speculation anyway.

    @Remedi: Did he truly got scared? I kinda remember that it felt more like he was shocked and maybe a bit angry? So for me it makes sense that he was shocked because he had Zenos face. Also lets not forget that our new Garlean was surprised that we thought that Zenos was death, so he should have arrived at Garlemald quite fast after his death.

    I am not saying that we cant be an avater (honestly I believe we are kinda directly a child of her, like created for her purpose thats why we are also not talking about any family) but Elidibus never looked like an Au Ra under that mask, his horns would have been seen at least a bit, the same with the scales. So he cant be like my character for example.

    I also believe that the last words of the archbishop are more like "what beast are you to be able to defeat me and my knights with 1000 years of prayers?". It feels more like an enemy that cant believe that they have lost, then him seeing something strange in us. The blackness part was for me more that he was losing his sight thanks to him dying. (But thats just my speculation)
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    Last edited by Alleo; 05-29-2018 at 06:12 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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