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  1. #21
    Player
    Rhus's Avatar
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    No level mention but you did say a player told you to use shield oath, that tells em you're high enough to have that as a skill (you'd never be told to use it in sastasha fr example) but you still say you're a gladiator... that would be an issue.could that be he issue? Hard to say
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  2. #22
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    Hasrat's Avatar
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Kinda sounds like you'd understand this already, but we've all seen it come up once or twice, so maybe worth saying: Flash isn't a long range spell.

    Like I said, I'm going with the assumption that you seem to sorta know pretty well how to catch aggro and all, but, yeah. Eventually we all get stuck with the tank that uses Flash way too early for it to actually hit anything. But if you're holding onto everything, then you're probably not one of those.

    As much as any of those knobs complain, guaranteed we've all seen worse.
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  3. #23
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    No level mention but you did say a player told you to use shield oath, that tells em you're high enough to have that as a skill (you'd never be told to use it in sastasha fr example) but you still say you're a gladiator... that would be an issue.could that be he issue? Hard to say
    I have seen tanks bothered to put on a tank stance as early as Halatali. Sometimes players are just misinformed. Think of how often RDMs in level 60 content are asked to raise - some people just don't know anything beyond their own class sadly.
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  4. #24
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    What makes you happy as a DPS or healer? Can you envision how that looks in play?

    Okay, now you just have to reverse-engineer it from the tank's set of tools.

    Seriously, though, that really is it. You'll generally learn more about proper tanking from healing and DPSing than tanking by itself, and in some cases more about healing from tanking, etc.

    Pull as many packs as you can reasonably AoE down; Sprint before you aggro the first mob in a set of packs for double duration on the Sprint; don't scoot mobs out of your ally's AoEs or lines of sight; don't take so much damage upon gather that your SCH can't Bane; keep the mobs as tightly packed as possible; spin them minimally; in a pinch during a gather, feed your Monk a stunned mob for the GL upkeep if you already wasted his Sprint; etc., etc.

    In short, avoid the stuff that annoyed you when trying to play well on a DPS or healer. Take advice from others in case you were abnormally hard to annoy so that you can meet more refined or optimized tactical tastes.
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  5. #25
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    Vurtney's Avatar
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    Saryn Storm
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Did you actually equip the PLD soul crystal to switch to PLD which you should get at level 30? I'm looking at your main class atm and it's a Pugilist at level 61 when it should be a Monk. Meaning your main class isn't equipped with Monk crystal either.
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    How to Use There, Their and They're:

    *Use there when referring to a place
    *Use their to indicate possession
    *They're is a contraction of the words they and are
    *Ur is an ancient city-state in Mesopotamia, not a word

  6. #26
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Vurtney View Post
    I'm looking at your main class atm
    It's not an indication from the game but just a random option chosen on the forums.
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  7. #27
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    Vurtney's Avatar
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    Saryn Storm
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    It's not an indication from the game but just a random option chosen on the forums.
    So it seems. If he understands the advanced job function he should have figured it out by now.
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    How to Use There, Their and They're:

    *Use there when referring to a place
    *Use their to indicate possession
    *They're is a contraction of the words they and are
    *Ur is an ancient city-state in Mesopotamia, not a word

  8. #28
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    Caitlyn's Avatar
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Lv 1 - 30: Spam flash, mark enemies
    Lv 30 - 70: Equip your PLD job crystal and use your PLD skills
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    - Queen of Heal 2022 -
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulecrain View Post
    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
    Quote Originally Posted by Dicentis View Post
    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  9. #29
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vurtney View Post
    So it seems. If he understands the advanced job function he should have figured it out by now.
    They're also posting with a character that doesn't have any tanks unlocked. So it has to be an alt or a friend who's having trouble.

    Break up your hate combo as sometimes the dps will chose different monsters or the few that still have dots will put them on other monsters. Also remember that if you use provoke you need to use another hate tool on top as provoke only puts you at the top of the hate list. It doesn't also generate.
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  10. #30
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    Luin Vereist
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian View Post
    That's exactly what I've been doing!
    pull literally everything, use rampart, *THEN* spam flash

    if they complain then, then you need to pull *more*

    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    mark enemies
    A complete waste of time.
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