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    Super_Bee_Brian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Sorry I didn't reply to you on this earlier. I wrote most of a response but then the page crashed, and then I got caught up in the new patch discussions and forgot to come back to this.


    I think we're approaching the question from very different angles. As far as I'm concerned, it's a fantasy world completely separate from our own, so we start from scratch. It has its own cosmology and there's nothing 'wrong' with God-as-we-know-Him not existing in it.

    The reason we wouldn't worship an Earth-mother-goddess isn't because it's an Earth-mother-goddess or because it's something that other religions worship (otherwise we're in trouble because other real-world religions do have a similar concept of God to us), but simply because she isn't God.

    However, in the game's fictional universe, the Earth-mother *is* a real goddess (or something like one) that our character has seen and spoken with.

    If you try to put the Christian God - who does not co-exist with other 'good' gods - into this universe, what does that make Hydaelyn and Her blessing upon our character? Why is She the one addressing us as her beloved child?

    It seems much simpler to accept what is presented to us in-game, than try to rewrite it to fit God where there is no space for Him to be. Hydaelyn takes the role that He would have if He existed in this universe, even if her exact form and the scope of her power is different. And if you have to compromise what God is and does to make Him fit within the game's universe, then is it even still Him?


    Of course most Eorzeans don't worship Hydaelyn herself, but the Twelve (who the game hints may or may not actually be real, but people believe that they are). I have no issue with the idea of my characters praying to these lesser gods, because it's what they know. I feel like the parallel is more about the intent than the exact form of the gods? So whether my characters are praying to Thaliak for wisdom, or to Oschon for a safe journey, or giving thanks to Nophica, it's all some form of prayer to [a god] and they do it with the same intent that I would have in praying to God for any of those things.

    You could still consider us learning of Hydaelyn as "a higher true god beyond the Twelve" as part of your narrative, if you want to look at it that way?
    Thanks.

    This post of yours is eye-opening and enlightening. I'll reread it in the future for guidance. It's quality stuff!
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    My character slid out of her mama's womb with axe in hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Wu Jin
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    My character is basically a depressed loner boy. He doesn't find anything interesting anymore, so he decides to wander around Eorzea alone to find something to spark his life. Though he is kinda puzzled, after finding out that he is a Warrior of Light, and doing countless adventures, he still finds his life is still boring.. What a pity boy..
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    She loves Yugiri very much.
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    Jye Greene
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    Was born and took up professional punching. Working out pretty well so far.
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    Saito Hikari
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    He's from a family of cartographers from an unnamed nation outside of Eorzea whose works were confiscated by Garlean forces shortly before a complete invasion was launched (bearing some guilt in the belief that his family's maps gave Garlemald the intelligence to launch a successful campaign). He managed to escape and flee, and ended up in the company of some bandits for a time where he learned basic archery in exchange for his skills as a cartographer. The group scattered when Garlean forces swept through the area, and he ended up in another nation that had a strange bar, where many bards from around the world had gathered to share their stories. Of course, the Legions arrived not soon after. The group initially had nothing to fear as non-combatants, up until the Garleans decided that their talents meant that there was a high risk of them performing espionage against Garlemald. The most respected among the group of bards started disappearing, and everyone else scattered to the winds once they realized what was happening.

    One highly illegal boat ride to Limsa that crashed somewhere around Western Thanalan and a carriage bound for Gridania later (specifically the Archer's Guild), of course Garlemald had to come knocking on the door yet again.
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 07-31-2018 at 12:53 PM.
    "Consider this old adage: When a Bard sings alone in a desert, and no one is around to hear him... Is he truly singing?"

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    Lunau'ra L'un
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    Hi, i'm Elinoira, when i was a baby i was adopted by a lovely couple from Horizon, my mother, Elina L'un, always claimed that me coming into their lives had been an act of Divine Grace by the Goddess Menphina herself, but we'll get to that in a minute. My childhood and early teenage years went by peacefully, when i was old enough to stay home by myself, i would take care of our home, while my parents traveled to Ul'dah to sell their goods at Sapphire Avenue.

    But it all changed the day i turned 17, that day dad was not feeling well so i offered to go along with mom instead to help her at the city. Just when we had made it past the bridge, a band of Marauders stopped us and demanded that we handed in our carriage, something that we could not afford to do, and then as soon as one of these thiefs approached to threaten my mom, something happened, something took over me and faster than i could even realise what i had done i disarmed the bandit of his sword and shield!

    Never had i held a sword in hand, but swiftly enough i found myself disarming and besting in combat each one of them, as if my body was moving on its own, and just as quickly they ran away, i spent the whole day wondering what had happened, not that i was not thankful of it, and that night my mother revealed to me what she had meant all along.

    I had not just come into their lives by coincidence, my mother was unable to give birth to a child of her own, so she prayed to the Goddess Menphina for a miracle, and that night, in her dreams, an etheral and peaceful voice responded to her prayer, telling her that the blessing of a daughter would be bestowed upon her but this child would bear a light in her that would become a beacon in a time of darkness, and it would be up to her to protect her until that day came.

    This revelation shook me, and then, that night i would have a dream of my own, an etheral voice just like my mother had heard in hers so long ago: "Hear, Feel, Think" a warm light surrounded me, as warm as the voice speaking these words was.

    The next morning, my mother told me that it was now time for me to look for a life beyond Horizon, she encouraged me to travel to the city and train to become a knight, i was still confused as to what my dream meant but the faith in my mother's eyes told me she was right about the path i should now follow.

    As soon as i arrived and since then, i have made a lot of new friends, joined the Scions of the Seventh Dawn to become a guardian not only to my beloved ones, but to all of Eorzea! they have helped me to understand the gift that lies within me and it has only made my resolve to protect even greater, but this journey is far from over.

    Not bad for a small town girl, huh?
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    Miss Derpina
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 79
    Let's just say we found her on the streets of Ishgard. Your typical orphan in the Brume. Was then "adopted" by some nobility who really just wanted extra servants. Turns out she was very intelligent so she was given a chance to be sent to the Scholasticate. Before she could attend, the noble family who "adopted" her were caught being heretics, and they left Ishgard on the spot, which also denied her entry to high-level education. As a result, she left Ishgard, but also to witness the Calamity right as she embarked. As a WoL, she heard Hydaelyn's call, and had to leave the universe to become an adventurer in another world.

    5 years later, she finally returned to Eorzea through Hydaelyn's call. And this is how her adventures as a WoL began.

    I feel like part of it didn't make any sense since I made a lot of it up on the spot, but I always wanted to find an excuse to call Ishgard home as a Duskwight Elezen.
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    ♿♿♿garbage truck coming through♿♿♿

    To think walking a holy crusade is a terrible idea... you're right, it is. :^)

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    Diana Crunchetta
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    Rayo Seibold
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Rayo Seibold was just a La Noscean Fisher Boy who came to Limsa Lominsa to join the marauder's guild to train in hopes of Joining the yellow Jackets or Maelstrom to help defend La Nosea or Eorzea as a whole. Eventually ended up in the fated Bump in with the scions and through a series of mishaps, somehow ended up in the rogue's Guild (where he flourished with Blades over an Axe). And the rest is History

    On top of this I imagined Good Ol' Rayo's Character Development Through out The Story, changing through out expansions and Jobs used for the story
    ARR: Quiet and Heroic, if Naive
    ARR Post game: Cocky and Heroic, Still fairly quiet cause Ninja
    HW: Moody/Angsty over recent events, which fuels his actions for the Expansion, Trained as a DRK alongside NIN
    HW Post Game: Resolves his Issues and returns to a Stoic hero, develops a More snarky Attitude in response to Hildebrand and CO and Ambiguously has PTSD over some events
    SB: Thanks to SB's "dialogue" Rayo had developed to a Full Blown Snarker with a Mischievous Streak (Mostly towards moogles), but none the less remains a Veteran hero, changes from DRK to SAM around the time of reaching Kugane
    SB Post Game: Still in development, but now acts as a Face for the Eorzean Alliance, but Prepares for the inevitable, Garlemald
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    Just putting my 2 cents in this coin operated opinion machine

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