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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60

    And so it begins again

    Looking through Tsukuyomi's Pain PFs and having HW war flashbacks nostalgia. Mandatory AST placement has returned, and a large number of groups are dropping the pretense altogether and are back to excluding WHM entirely for SCH/ AST.

    Thanks, SE. It was fun being somewhat relevant for... 3 patches?

    I look forward to the next patch when AST gets 50% Balance, SCH gets a 30 second Aetherflow cooldown and WHM gets its Holy cast time reduced by 0.5 seconds if you use Cure III three times within 10 seconds.
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    IanFrench's Avatar
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    Ian French
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Relax, SE will certain react to it, only if it was true =)
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    12 PFs currently on Aether for the new EX fight. Not a single WHM locked outta PF outside of those that already have both slots full with healers.

    ...I don't see a WHM exclusion problem here.
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Are you doing Savage speedkill/log runs, ultimate ?
    No ?

    Then you should be fine until 5.0.
    Good bye.

    (At this point, I don't even want to argue anymore, it really gets ridiculous)
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    #Salt

    Any class is viable just make your own pf.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
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    Half the time it's simply that the group had an AST who dropped causing the PF to lock the slot to that job. Consider sending a /tell before you panic.
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

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    gumas's Avatar
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    must be on na server? iam on jp server and no one being exclusive here, i got 4 run and i always paired with either sch or whm (never get another ast with me for some reason)

    in fact i lost count how many times i got saved by whm thanks to their raw healing power especially when you got derp/1st timer party.
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Looking through Tsukuyomi's Pain PFs and having HW war flashbacks nostalgia. Mandatory AST placement has returned, and a large number of groups are dropping the pretense altogether and are back to excluding WHM entirely for SCH/ AST.
    Please don't spread salty nonsense.

    Did you even send /tells to these groups to get context? I doubt it.

    Like Sebazy said when a job leaves a party it keeps the slot locked and the PF leader has to fix it.

    Also I mean....any proof that this is so rampant? It would help your case.
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  9. #9
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    #Salt.
    I'm a WHM, that's a given.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
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    The slots are locked to SCH or AST, it's not a case of someone leaving the party.

    And... my own... eyes? I literally said what I've experienced in the OP. You think I'm in the habit of making it up because I'm so desperate to prove how utterly redundant my main is? Chaos is certainly rife with it.
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 74
    Thinking you need to optimize jobs for EX primals OMEGALUL
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