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  1. #11
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    SionDurant's Avatar
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    Zohar Lumani
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayden View Post
    Scathe 960MP
    Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 100.
    Additional Effect: 20% chance potency will double
    Additional Effect: Extends Astral Fire/ Umbral Ice duration by 3s


    I have been playing BLM for quite some time. At times, I still find myself having to use transpose to refresh the timer as I dont have time to use Blizzard 3 or Fire 1 due to mechanic/movement/mistake. As we know, using transpose to refresh the timer is not desired or optimal and will obviously disrupt our rotation.

    I was thinking why not have Scathe extend AF/UI by 3 seconds. When the situation calls for it, we use scathe as we are moving out of AOE. As a result, we will have enough time to cast a Blizzard 3 or Fire 1 to refresh AF/UI to full duration, which will keep the flow of our rotation.

    What do you all think?
    Yes please.
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  2. #12
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    Shiroe's Avatar
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    increase scaths potency to 300 too (when lv 70), than i'd agree

    take out the scath proc if needed, but keep a 3-6 sec eno increase
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    Last edited by Shiroe; 05-22-2018 at 08:39 AM.

  3. #13
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    Zerathor's Avatar
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    Jack Cinder
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Would be interesting, but it wouldn't impact much or be part of a rotation in that method. Think about it, being that scathe is gcd, 3s extention would mean you gave yourself 0.5-0.8s of usable AF/UI time to get off that b3 or f3, while basically sacrificing a gcd to do a lot less damage.

    I'd rather see it turned into an ogcd with maybe a 15s cd and become a mild damage boost to weave between procs or instant casts or something like that.
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    Last edited by Zerathor; 05-22-2018 at 08:46 AM.

  4. #14
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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Side note but I'd like for SE to give a pass to lv 15 abilities and reinforce what is underpowered, those skills are given as a reward for completing the class quest and essentially levelling the job it's only natural that they should feel rewarding, aside BLM and their scathe I'm not really sure how WHM feels with the almighty fluid aura of now for example.
    Melee and their ranged attack should be looked upon too considering how SAM has a decent interaction with the ranged attack (no I'm not saiying it's optimal or the best thing ever, I'm just saying that the interaction is interesting and decent)
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  5. #15
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    Dante Vigilante
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 43
    If it remains an instant GCD spell, it will indeed only add 0.5-0.8s to the timer as some of you commented. On the surface it seems to achieve nothing. However, it effectively PAUSES our AF/UI timer for 3s, giving us a little more wiggle room. We can use it right before we start moving or on the move.

    In a scenario where you do not have firestarter/ swiftcast/ triplecast, and a mechanic is forcing you to move, you will not be casting any spell anyway. You might say a good BLM will anticipate the mechanic and save firestarter/ swift cast for the movement. I say why not have an additional option to extend the timer, and unlike Transpose it is without switching AF/UI.

    I'm not suggesting Scathe to be included into BLM's rotation. It is merely for situational use. So potency wise it can remain as it is. Of course I would not complain if they buff the potency XD.
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  6. #16
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    NoctusT's Avatar
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    Character
    Noctus Tagaris
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I don’t see the point in it when it will cost you a fire iv to use. We have just enough Mp for 6 fire iv. What’s the point in keeping the timer going if you won’t get in another fire iv due to scathe’s MP cost? If you don’t have time for a fast b3 you can just transpose right now. Dropping a fire iv to be able to cast a fast blizzard is
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I just want FFXII's Scathe...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZJbtuFQQkE

    I'm nearly sure they missused the name, it should be "Scrath" for FFXIV, not "Scathe"
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