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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    no offense, use a better analogy then.
    Didn't know "Remember when this game took skill?" followed with a video showing something that took skill that can no longer be done due to damage balancing and removal of certain skills meant "You can't do this anymore because it hardly takes skill to play anymore." (or whatever you thought I meant)

    /Andrien's derail thread misses and does no damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Didn't know "Remember when this game took skill?" followed with a video showing something that took skill that can no longer be done due to damage balancing and removal of certain skills meant "You can't do this anymore because it hardly takes skill to play anymore." (or whatever you thought I meant)

    /Andrien's derail thread misses and does no damage.
    your original question can go both ways, but thanks for the confirmation.
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    Old sistem never got skill. No moral.
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    Artificial skill is artificial. It's simply the exploitation of the imbalances in skills and stats in order to take down mobs that you shouldn't even be going near realistically.
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    I'm with Andrien on this one. Things that were easy back in the day are much harder now, even if that means some are no longer possible. Any game where a r50 character can solo a r95 mob is absolutely BROKEN. It just shows the lack of skill involved in defeating enemies that were meant for your level.

    A better comparison would have been Dodore solo before and after or something similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    I'm with Andrien on this one. Things that were easy back in the day are much harder now, even if that means some are no longer possible. Any game where a r50 character can solo a r95 mob is absolutely BROKEN. It just shows the lack of skill involved in defeating enemies that were meant for your level.

    A better comparison would have been Dodore solo before and after or something similar.
    Dodore before patch: takes a lot of people to kill
    Dodore after patch: takes 3 people



    All I'm asking for is some hard content. I mean I even take PL'd new players to moogle with me and win. (not to mention Ifrit)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Dodore before patch: takes a lot of people to kill
    Dodore after patch: takes 3 people



    All I'm asking for is some hard content. I mean I even take PL'd new players to moogle with me and win. (not to mention Ifrit)
    You're comparing old FFXIV to current FFXIV. The video you linked still had the stamina bar.

    Dodore was easily soloable back then, along with Gob and I think Uraeus as well.

    Is that possible now? Maybe, but I'm pretty sure it takes much more skill than spamming cures and keeping Emulate up.

    I too would love to see some extremely difficult content, but saying the game took more skill back then is simply not true.
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    I suppose this is all relative to the play style of the individual. What one would consider more of a challenge back then is all based on perspective, and ones own play style preference. I think Yoshida has favored the majority which is only fair, but for people who seek more of a "challenge" we will just have to hold out for that and hope Yoshida comes through for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    You're comparing old FFXIV to current FFXIV. The video you linked still had the stamina bar.

    Dodore was easily soloable back then, along with Gob and I think Uraeus as well.

    Is that possible now? Maybe, but I'm pretty sure it takes much more skill than spamming cures and keeping Emulate up.

    I too would love to see some extremely difficult content, but saying the game took more skill back then is simply not true.
    The original 5 Open World NMs had been solo'd by Thaumaturges. Emulate was so broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    This game used to take at least some skill?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_X6WUfp5vc
    Nice vid. I already miss those times...i already miss that game... ; ;
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