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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    The Daily Map Challenge may be a killer for me but I will wait to see what the Secure changes mean. It looks like it will be another Shatter mode.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reyn View Post
    I hope the changes they're making don't turn it into another Shatter.
    It will be similar to Shatter but less with reliance on PvE enemies. Secure only has one big PvE target.

    With the reduced size of the map, it will have a greater emphasis on bases compared to Shatter. Especially on 72-man matches since you have 6 bases instead of just 3 in 24-man. You get 10 points for removing one other team's claim over a base and another 10 points securing it for your team. Only 1 point per tick though compared to bases on Shatter where they give you 2 points per tick. They didn't mention bases in the patch notes so I would assume this weren't changed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I m bit sad hyoton nerfed into 2 seconds. It was fun bind tank and melee for 4 second constantly, but I guess it was kinda annoy for opponents.
    4 second bind would have been pretty much OP when you think about the changes to Bind itself and respawn changes in the Feast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OskarXCI View Post
    With the reduced size of the map, it will have a greater emphasis on bases compared to Shatter.
    Where does it say they're reducing the size of Secure's map? From the screenshot, it looks like they've mainly raised the home base to make it easier to defend.

    What concerns me is the adjustment to mob placement and timing. If they've shifted it so they start spawning randomly all over the place, it will be indistinguishable from Shatter aside from extra bases in 72-man (which we'll see like once per week). I guess we'll see when it's released, but I hope they haven't changed the mode too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyn View Post
    Where does it say they're reducing the size of Secure's map? From the screenshot, it looks like they've mainly raised the home base to make it easier to defend.
    Check the latest dev blog where they talk about PvP changes for 4.3. The base in the screenshot is one the corner bases. You can see the Twin Adder banners in the distance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reyn View Post
    What concerns me is the adjustment to mob placement and timing. If they've shifted it so they start spawning randomly all over the place, it will be indistinguishable from Shatter aside from extra bases in 72-man (which we'll see like once per week). I guess we'll see when it's released, but I hope they haven't changed the mode too much.
    We'll see but I think many will be happy with a map that has similar rules to Shatter but without all the snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OskarXCI View Post
    Check the latest dev blog where they talk about PvP changes for 4.3. The base in the screenshot is one the corner bases. You can see the Twin Adder banners in the distance.
    Ah, I hadn't seen that. That's too bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OskarXCI View Post
    It will be similar to Shatter but less with reliance on PvE enemies. Secure only has one big PvE target.
    Nodes and Drones. So there are two different NPC Enemies. One Big one and then there are batches of six small ones.
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