Patch Notes (Preliminary)

[MartaDemireux]

Isn't it more of a nerf now that it's considered an ability and not a spell? Rouse and Fey Illumination only affects healing magic.

I’d call it a middle ground.

Potency nerf overall (buffed to 120 but out of Rouse’s 140+ depending on mantra etc) but will be easier to use/time/prepare. Frees up Rouse for other times as well when Embrace should be buffed in a non-AoE situation (currently only used in AoE situations with WD).

My biggest gripe is the change to Greed only in alliance hroulette. What's the intention behind this? To help players get the loot they want, or make it harder? To make things fair? What is it in response to? Does it have to do with the overwhelming amount of gripes about those rolling Need when they really don't need it?

I think a large part of it is to make clearing them much easier. They go so much faster once everyone is geared and the odds of wiping are usually much lower. If everyone is on alt jobs for glamour gear, it’s very noticeable. If there’s a piece you are really looking to get in particular you can always politely say so in your group. Someone that just rolls greed on everything may not do it for that one item because you mentioned politely that you were hoping to get it. Otherwise it’s only tanks that never had competition, but that isn’t exactly fair in itself, is it? Now the competition is there no matter your job and prevents a group from entering and kicking another caster just because they didn’t want competition (I’ve seen it happen many times).

[Enlial]

This haircut is ugly as hell...thanks SE...:/

Its hard to tell for certain from the limited angles you see in the screenshots, but I think it looks pretty good. Except, maybe its just me, but it looks way way too small on the male character (female looks fine, so again, maybe its the angle)

I do wish they'd add more distinct haircuts. Like I said, I dont think its bad, just a little generic considering whats already available.

[Gemina]

I think a large part of it is to make clearing them much easier. They go so much faster once everyone is geared and the odds of wiping are usually much lower. If everyone is on alt jobs for glamour gear, it’s very noticeable. If there’s a piece you are really looking to get in particular you can always politely say so in your group. Someone that just rolls greed on everything may not do it for that one item because you mentioned politely that you were hoping to get it. Otherwise it’s only tanks that never had competition, but that isn’t exactly fair in itself, is it?

Not any less fair than it is for tanks to get exclusive mounts, which I think is perfectly just. However, I don't think it is that big of an issue, just something that I do have a gripe about. I suppose it's more personal feelings than it actually is impacting on the game. Like I said before, even when rolling greed, my armory still gets filled with stuff I just end up turning in for seals.

[Dualgunner]

Here's hoping 4.4 we'll see some RDM adjustments.

[Sekkei]

I love the keyword supposedly.

Sigh. I knew I should have put in hearsay. I don't go to the Japanese forums and toss every page into Google translate. Someone else said it and I didn't care to question it because all that mattered to me was that SE was taking Need away for whatever dumb reason. I wasn't placing blame on anyone, hence the supposedly, and waiting for someone to come up and say otherwise without getting mad at me in the process, which I guess you are with the way your reply looks. I'll just drop it. No one's at fault and SE is pulling stupid stunts yet again. ._.

[Luin]

Not everyone runs in a static where those roles are guaranteed or the people playing them know how to supply you with MP when you need it. My experience with most BRDs was that they prioritize extending Foe's over support for the healer which isn't necessarily an invalid decision while MCHs are allergic to Refresh.
And you forgot BLM, which to me shows all the more you're talking about a raid environment which despite a lot of buzz on the forums is still run by a minority of the playerbase.

BLM shouldn't manashift unless you have no other Refreshes in the party, it's the only job that suffers a DPS loss for it (stays in UI longer). I purposely excluded BLM.
(But you also forgot RDM)
Anyway even extending Foes, Refresh is still being played, you're still getting MP and you should always be casting. Communicate with your team so you don't overlap TA/Lucid and Refresh (since I'm assuming that's your problem).

SE is pulling stupid stunts yet again. ._.

When are they not? The problem is players just assume it's a cultural difference and devs say "well players do X and Y" when we do something entirely different.

It's not because JP players play drastically different than NA, it's just that the developers have too small of a sample size. They don't test properly and they're too slow to respond to feedback. We've known this since before 1.0 even launched.

The page I linked, players in that thread hate that change. But there are NA players that love the change and there are definitely JP players that love the change. My point is nationality has no bearing on how one plays the game or thinks.

[BillyKaplan]

BLM shouldn't manashift unless you have no other Refreshes in the party, it's the only job that suffers a DPS loss for it (stays in UI longer). I purposely excluded BLM.

Manashifting in Umbral Ice 3 gives you the mana back instantly, never had to wait before switching back.

(since I'm assuming that's your problem).

You'll assume wrong. In general most of the situation you're presenting is very specific and relies on a lot of assumptions that don't translate well to common play from my experience.

[Luin]

Manashifting in Umbral Ice 3 gives you the mana back instantly, never had to wait before switching back.



You'll assume wrong. In general most of the situation you're presenting is very specific and relies on a lot of assumptions that don't translate well to common play from my experience.

It does not. You need to wait for the server tick, which can be instant, or it could be as much as 3 seconds. You've simply been lucky. (For posterity, most things operate on server tick; notably dots and ground effects like CO)

And if it isn't your problem, then what is? Because Refresh is still mp, it doesn't magically give you more MP the later in the fight you are. If you aren't 100% mp, then it's effective mp.

[KageTokage]

I'm curious about whether or not the new DoH/L stuff is going to be gated by an item purchased with currency from the Namazu dailies similar to the Ironworks gear.

Not that I'd have a problem with it, since it just makes it harder for the bots to exploit the market with an unfarmable resource involved.

[Alleo]

The thing is, supposedly, the Japanese players asked for this change in the first place. Something about they want to gear their jobs they don't want to take into raid/the job is too low in ilevel to enter and they can't get gear because the people that are actually playing as that job in the raid are needing on gear those people want. Be it seals, glamour, or heaven forbid overriding little Timmy's Greed with Need on the piece because you actually do need it as an upgrade, SE decided that everyone gets screwed to solve it.

As Luin pointed out even the japanese players seems to find this change a bit strange and we should not forget that their playerbase is the minority and even those could have enough people that are hurt by this change. (Also if they dont want to even go into 24 man raids with secondary jobs, why do they even need gear for them? If they dont run normal content with those jobs, would they truly run raids with it?)